Forum Etiquette

[John Saxton]

You guys need a room in alt.philosophy

Back to the original topic, Graeme has a point - it is just polite to acknowledge someone's effort on you behalf.

A simple thank you is all it takes.

Is it merely a sign of the times that good manners are only a product of an upbringing of folk sensitive to peoples needs?

Oft times I find that even holding the door open for someone is met with total ignorance and not a word of consideration in my direction,not only with the younger generation but at times also in those of my generation.

I get annoyed with ignorance and generally say thanks in their direction when I do something and don't get acknowledged....still get the blank look tho???

Cheers

[Bleedin Thumb]

I'm not going to respond to this thread as I don't fall into the Grumpy Old Men category ..........yet...... well OK actually I do.....

What I hate is old people complaining about the lack of manners of today's youth.

Come on now, what do you expect from those rude, ignorant, self opinionated toe rags anyway! Young people ! Shoot the lot of them!

[m2c1Iw]

Come on now, what do you expect from those rude, ignorant, self opinionated toe rags anyway! Young people !

Please accept my apology for all my thoughtlessness I know I have been young,rude and self opinionated but listen here mate where do you get off calling me a toe rag ..........

[dazzler]

Respect ya elders.......




what a toe rag

[Toolin Around]

Maybe this has already been said as I haven't read the replies...

You have to remember that all you are doing is essentially responding to a computer screen there is no one else there. When you look at it that way it's much easier to realize that most of the etiquette we come to expect from personal contact goes out the window. I know how I converse with someone in person is much different than when I'm banging it out on a keyboard. This is not an attempt at an excuse for bad form but just a reality of the digital age. You can't take it personally.

[Toolin Around]

A simple thank you would suffice, but as you say it doesn't always happen

Like you, I have helped people out either by giving advice or scanning things and sending pdf files. The rate of thank you's is about 50%, ways of the modern world I'm afraid. Might I say some of the offenders were not new forumites either.

Best way to approach that, as said before, is to expect nothing, anything else is a bonus.

I consider helping others as a small pay back for all the advice and help I have received from the forum, without all these willing people the forum would not be what it is today.

I think you need to change the way you think (not meant in any other way than helpful). You should be helping cause you want to. To support what is a good community type attitude. I couldn't careless if I get a response or not. It's completely irrelevant to why and what I'm trying to foster, we're suppose to be here to share and help each other not receive praise. I refuse to take it personally and destroy the community sharing that forums like this have created by taking it personally if someone doesn't respond back. In fact I would have a tough time taking it personally because I rarely take notice of whom I'm responding to. Come to think of it I actually have no idea whom I'm responding to now!

[Big Shed]

Maybe this has already been said as I haven't read the replies...

You have to remember that all you are doing is essentially responding to a computer screen there is no one else there. When you look at it that way it's much easier to realize that most of the etiquette we come to expect from personal contact goes out the window. I know how I converse with someone in person is much different than when I'm banging it out on a keyboard. This is not an attempt at an excuse for bad form but just a reality of the digital age. You can't take it personally.

TA, I agree with the bit about the interaction on screen to a certain extent, however basic good manners still apply.

It is where you go to the trouble of doing something besides "banging a reply on the keyboard", eg scan an article and email that to a person not a computer screen, that at the very least an acknowledgement, if not a thank you is in order.

But perhaps it is a generational thing, and like BT said I'm just a grumpy old f*rt, but then I'd rather be a grunpy old f*rt with manners, than a young buck wihtout them.

From my observation though, it is not related to age, perhaps more to upbringing.

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

A minor diversion: while re-reading this thread a grey cell sparked and resurrected parts of a long forgotten memory.

There's a language that has a plethora of words to say "thank you," the main difference between them being the degree of annoyance expressed at being beholden to someone...

Is it Japanese? Or am I recalling some childhood urban myth?

[RufflyRustic]

Not meaning to detracting from Skew's question in any way, as I'm interested in the answer...

But as to etiquette anyway, anywhere, instead of complaining about it and doing not much, why not continue to lead by example, as some of the posters/readers of this thread already do.

Yes, it does need to be said, but saying is nothing without examples to back it up.

So, indeed,

Thank you

Wendy

[Frank&Earnest]

I think you need to change the way you think (not meant in any other way than helpful). You should be helping cause you want to. To support what is a good community type attitude. I couldn't careless if I get a response or not. It's completely irrelevant to why and what I'm trying to foster, we're suppose to be here to share and help each other not receive praise. I refuse to take it personally and destroy the community sharing that forums like this have created by taking it personally if someone doesn't respond back. In fact I would have a tough time taking it personally because I rarely take notice of whom I'm responding to. Come to think of it I actually have no idea whom I'm responding to now!

Ditto.

[Frank&Earnest]

A minor diversion: while re-reading this thread a grey cell sparked and resurrected parts of a long forgotten memory.

There's a language that has a plethora of words to say "thank you," the main difference between them being the degree of annoyance expressed at being beholden to someone...

Is it Japanese? Or am I recalling some childhood urban myth?

A couple of other forumites are more qualified than I am to respond, but I am going to "weigh in" anyway. Don't think it is Japanese, it is true that they have at least three or four ways to say it, but it is a matter of speaking up or down. Interpreting status recognition as annoyance whould be too long a bow to draw, IMHO.

[kekemo]

Ah yes the code:.....Read more than some of it ...laughed my head of at most of it....can't believe someone has that much time on their hands....they need to spend more time in their shed working.....stop the
b l o o d y thinking....do some work.....LOL...
I just don't have enough hours in the day....don't let anyone tell you it gets easy the older the kids get.....New generation hasn't heard of that....33, 31, 28, & 27 and run around after them more now than ever before in my life....But it's keeping me out of trouble....now have to get retic going so woodwork has to wait until monday....
Have a good weekend everyone...

But don't worry about those people who don't thank you....their sure to want to know something again, so next time.... you don't have to worry then do you....

Lifes a bitch then you die....we have to be thankful for what we have....and try to influence others with decorum & ettiquette with out letting it worry you.....or its not really a selfless task....

Worse "greenie I knew....wasn't a forumie but a political one.....and guess what car they had....YES a V8....mmm didn't add up for me!

Anyway...just dropped by...not here much lately...to much going on.
Keep enjoying the woodworking....everyone!
KEKEMO

[Cliff Rogers]

Ah yes the code:.....Read more than some of it ...laughed my head of at most of it....can't believe someone has that much time on their hands............

It wasn't written by one bloke alone... it was a committee but one bloke put it all together into one code.

Worse "greenie I knew....wasn't a forumie but a political one.....and ....

oooooooo.........

Where is that smiley with the ball going right through to the keeper????

Wrong sort of greenie Kerry.

[Wild Dingo]

I am probably being old fashioned, over sensitive and a bad tempered old f@rt, but I get really disappointed when I respond to PM requests and then hear no more from the other (usually new) forumite. A PM of thanks, a greenie or even just acknowlegement of receipt would make me less likely to ignore future requests.
Cheers....(?)
Graeme

Well... I know Ive been guilty of that occasionally sometimes I forget sometimes I get distracted sometimes other things get in the way... and while sometimes down the track I will remember other times it just clean buggars of out of my mind... I regularily clean out the pm box totally since the damned thing doesnt hold enough for a weeks pming... so in the cleanout I can and have lost a few that I should have responded to.

So here an now Graeme I say... THANKS MATE!!... sorry? cheers? good on yer?

Oh and I include all those who Ive failed to say a solid thanks cheers good on yer too other than graeme who I cant really remember if hes sent me a pm or not but heck I reckon hes alright so maybe he did better cover the bases eh? So...

THANKS ALL!! BLUDDY BUNCH OF FRIGGIN LEGENDS THE LOT OF YER!!! yep even some of those wallys that inhabit that other forum are all right... others well theres always some that you wont get along with so fluck em an move forward but to all of yous mob that have in some way or other helped assisted encouraged and motivated me over the time Ive been here or sent me emails pdfs or snail mail stuff along with other such... THANK YOU!!

[Master Splinter]

I like the people who come along, join, ask a question, argue with the answers they get because it doesn't support their own opinions, and then leave in a big huff after saying how clever they are!

(this is my favorite thread on the topic - http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=31829)