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  1. #1
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    Default POPE Weeping Pipe good to lay under turf?

    i am planning new lawns on both front and back.

    thinking about laying Legend Couch Turf, and to lay Poper weeping pipe under it.

    http://www.toro.com.au/pope/product.cfm?prd=360

    Part Numbers:

    1010261 - 4mm x 20m Drip Eze Tubing
    1010264 - 13mm x 15m Drip Eze Tubing
    1010262 - 13mm x 20m Drip Eze Tubing

    Features: 2 L/h emitter every 30 cm
    Ideal for low pressure areas
    Saves 50-60% water v's traditional watering methods
    Easy to install, fits difficult corners
    Economical and efficient watering
    Discreet brown tubing blends into the landscape
    4 mm and 13 mm ID available
    One piece in-line drip tube for a wide range of residential/landscape applications for the most efficient method of watering. Drip Eze Applies water to the plants at a slow consistent rate, avoiding run-off and water wastage.
    what do you suggest? is it a good idea? or i should go with sprinkler? (sprinklers are not allowed in Melbourne due to water restrictions).

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    The local council has been putting this in the ground to water the old trees,and the grass grows really well in the 300mm either side of the pipe,but the water doesn't seem to be getting much further than that.It is very obvious where the pipe is buried!

    Tools

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    thanks Tools for your reply.

    my rear lawn would be 7m deep and 10m wide, so that means i should run about 11 rows of this weeping pipe to cover whole area.
    (7000/600) = 11.6
    lawn is 10m wide, 10m x 11 = 110m weeping pipe
    it cost about $1 per m, which makes about $120 to cover whole rear lawn.

    how deep this weeping pipe should be under turf? right under turf or under 50mm top soil layer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirz View Post
    (sprinklers are not allowed in Melbourne due to water restrictions).
    Isn't lawn watering restricted as well in Melbourne?
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    yes it is restricted, and thats why i am planning to use grey water with weepers.

    but sprinklers need lot of pressure on their back.

    thats the main reason why i am inclined towards weepers

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    Also try Netafim:

    http://www.netafim.com.au/

    Some of this stuff is turning up at bunnings. Their techline product is supposed to be better for subsoil irrigation as it has some anti-siphon device to help prevent suck-back. I'm using some of their purple 3L/minute product for the wastewater treatment plant effluent and it seems to work well.

    If you have a look at http://www.netafim.com.au/index.php?sectionid=79 you will see two photos showing the before and after of a subsoil irrigation project:



    After:



    Very impressive..

    woodbe.

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    thanks Woodbe for your input, looks very impressive.

    same Techline is also $1 per meter, plus they recommended to buy one Tech-Filter per zone, which is $120.

    will have to find out, how deep it should be from turf? 50mm or more than that or less than that???

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    On the wastewater lines I have in the garden, I have installed Moss pressure reducer/filters which cost about $10 at bunnings. I think our treatment plant must be operating well in the sediment department as the filters never seem to collect anything. Netafim specify #120 filters though, no idea what the Moss filter grade is. Haven't seen a dripper clog yet though.

    Netafim also have all sorts of useful drain-down and flush valves in their range. Maybe useful to allow the pipes to empty of water which might help reduce roots finding their way in.

    Once we get the wastewater treatment plant sorted, I'm planning to install a small area of techline and some nice turf just to make the neighbors jealous

    woodbe.

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    finally today i bought whole setup from a local supplier in Melbourne. cost me $545 for both front and back yard. very happy with their service, professional advise and did not try to ripp off at all.

    but if someone is interested in finding out very descent prices, checkout following website:

    http://www.duralirrigation.com.au/onlinestore/index.cfm

    their prices seems very good, but i went to a local shop because i was confused regarding few points.

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    The only thing with cheaper drip lines is that depending on design the holes can clog up over time with dirt and silt, the more quality ones like TechLine have a 1-way hole that water can only enter in 1 way and can't allow foreign material in

    Netafim tends to be usually good though
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    thats the one which i bought, its called NetaFim Techline AS (anti syphin).

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    Mirz,

    don't forget to post photos of your installation, I think there will be a lot of interest as this stuff seems to be the way to go.

    Someone was telling me recently that for trees, they mage a circle of the techline the same diameter as the trees drip circumference and bury it under the surface. Apparently works a treat.

    woodbe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbe View Post
    Mirz,

    don't forget to post photos of your installation, I think there will be a lot of interest as this stuff seems to be the way to go.

    Someone was telling me recently that for trees, they mage a circle of the techline the same diameter as the trees drip circumference and bury it under the surface. Apparently works a treat.

    woodbe.

    no probs. tomorrow i will have to remove small path of leftover grass roots, and after that will be ready to setup Techline AS.

    for tree they actualy recommend a wedge type long thing which takes water deep direct into its roots.

    this following pdf file has all accessories:
    http://www.netafim.com.au/uploads/Ir...ccessories.pdf

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    We use that stuff everywhere we can....always cheaper from the irrigation supplier like Water Dynamics than a hardware store.

    I can recommend Dural Irrigation both as a website but more importantly as a shopfront. Great store, helpful people and decent prices....surprising really when you consider their location in a part of north western Sydney known for expensive tastes in hobby and lifestyle properties.
    Ours is not to reason why.....only to point and giggle.

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    finaly its there, only last confusion i have that water is keep coming out from Flush valve (from its top holes, like small spray) is it normal or i did something wrong.

    all the rest has gone fine, finished too late, it was very dark. will take pic tomorrow and post them here.

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