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  1. #16
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    PS .. If there's a Bunnings in the region, they may stock Howards and Gilly Stephenson's products.

    The latter do a pretty good Cabinet Makers wax. It's harder than Ubeaut Trad Wax and takes more effort but the results are good.
    Cheers, Ern

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    And, of course, The Woodsmith stocks all the Rustin's products.
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

    - Andy Mc

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    We do have a Bunnies Superstore in 'The Bay' and they carry both Organoil and Gilly Stephenson's products.

    I'm not convinced there's any improvement in the durability of a DO finish by adding a wax topcoat.
    Whilst I am truly a newbie at this I thought all the evidence seemed to point that way myself.

    Thanks Ern and Skew for the suppliers, a quick look tells me they will be a great help.
    A greenie to you both for that

    Even buying glue locally is a PITA.

    I ask "Do you have any Alaphatic resin glue?"
    They hear "Have you seen a two headed Martian swamp crawler?"

    At least that's what the silly look on their faces suggests.

    Not just Bunnies I might add, the staff at our local store are pretty good actually.
    Compared to the Mitre 5 they are absolute geniuses.

    They were even happy to listen when I explained why I wanted Industrial Methylated Spirits to make shellac, not the household stuff.

    Hmmm.... another thing I have to track down that nobody has heard of up here.


    Cheers,
    Papillon.

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    I'll apply wax over DO on my own newly turned tool-handles, but that's about it. I just slap a coat of DO on 'em - without bothering about wiping off any excess or recoating 'cos it's just to seal them, not make them look beautiful - then a day later give 'em a layer of wax to improve the grip until I "break them in."

    I wouldn't bother with wax over anything I want to look good for the long term.
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

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    I wouldn't bother with wax over anything I want to look good for the long term.
    Yeah, I don't want to give 'em a table that needs attention on a regular basis, 'cos I know who's going to get stuck with that job

    Cheers,
    Papillon.

  6. #21
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    For mail order gear try Northwoods, Carbatec, GPW and many others. I personally get my finishing gear from the Benevolent one at the Wood shows, but I am only a very small time backyard timber wrecker

    I take no responsibility for your significant others reaction to the increase use of your credit card
    Pat
    Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain

  7. #22
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    Hi Pat,
    Thanks for those links. I too am a small time operator.

    My one completed w/w piece so far is an octagonal pine side table to duplicate (sort of) one we already had.

    That little project took nearly 5 years. Everyone likes it, but I keep looking at it and shuddering at the workmanship, or lack thereof

    I won't be spending too much for a while, just some essentials. The budget fairy has been on life support for a fair while up here, but there are signs of a possible slow recovery.

    Cheers,
    Papillon.

  8. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papillon View Post
    Yeah, I don't want to give 'em a table that needs attention on a regular basis, 'cos I know who's going to get stuck with that job

    Cheers,
    Papillon.
    I wouldn't be too concerned over having to give the table the occassional attention. With the sandown mop and some traditional wax it could be given a quick image boost in less than half an hour. Once a year or so and your done.

    It just depends on what you are comfortable with. At the end of the day a DO finish, with or without wax may not be the best finish given hot coffee cups and spills.

    My experience with DO is without wax it can look a little flat .... with wax I like the soft shine that doesn't feel like plastic.
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    It just depends on what you are comfortable with. At the end of the day a DO finish, with or without wax may not be the best finish given hot coffee cups and spills.
    What would your preference for a finish be?

    This coffee table will be a gift to a young couple and will probably see some careless use.

    I must admit, I have probably been a bit one eyed about an oil finish, without considering whether it was the most appropriate for the task.

    Would I be better off using something else entirely?

    Cheers,
    Papillon.

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    Papillon,

    Dont let me put you off your choice of finish ..... it would be the one that I would choose myself. Just throwing into the mix if it is the best finish for your chosen project.

    Obviously there are pros and cons of each finish and it is just a matter of weighing them up. The advantage of the oil is that it soaks into the timber which helps to hide any scratches and the like, however it will not cope to well with spills. I had some bandsaw boxes on display and they got rained on ..... the finish was the DO, EEE and traditional wax, the spots of rain left visable marks. I am sure that they will be easy enough to buff out but as you have already mentioned you are looking for something set and forget. The straight DO may cope better with the spills.

    The oil produces a very natural feel which I personally like, which is why I would use it ..... but for hard wearing finishes perhaps there is something better.
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    Dont let me put you off your choice of finish ..... it would be the one that I would choose myself. Just throwing into the mix if it is the best finish for your chosen project.
    SS you have not put me off at all. In fact I sincerely thank you for throwing your opinion and experience into the ring. that is exactly the kind of advice/info. I was hoping to find.

    I have always been a great believer in listening to conventional wisdom then thinking it over for myself.

    Sometimes things are done the way they are for very good reasons, but often there is a better/different way if you are prepared to look at things with no bias, or from a different angle.

    Cheers,
    Papillon.
    p.s a greenie to ya for your trouble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papillon View Post
    I ask "Do you have any Alaphatic resin glue?"
    They hear "Have you seen a two headed Martian swamp crawler?"

    At least that's what the silly look on their faces suggests.

    the staff at our local store are pretty good actually.
    They were even happy to listen when I explained why I wanted Industrial Methylated Spirits to make shellac, not the household stuff.

    Papillon.
    Papillon, I have the same problem here in The Valley (cue banjoes) when it comes to buying supplies. When I was after 1oo% meths staff at several stores looked really suss, like they thought I was going to go lie on a park bench and swig it out of a brown paper bag. I ended up finding it in a home decor store.

    I use organoil DO, but it gives me asthma unless I have a fan on blowing it away from me whilst applying it; a few days later it smells nice and fresh, then its gone. Works well under Ubeaut tradwax. My jarrah coffee table takes a pounding, kids jumping on it and 'decorating' it with texta, hot coffee cups, total abuse, and it is remarkable how good the finish still looks!
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