Cert IV in Assesment and training anyone??

[nats]

Has anyone done Cert IV in Assesment and Training? I was having a bit of a stink about maybe getting the qualifcation I need to teach (part time) at TAFE (actually I've thought about it for a while now ) ...
Anyhoo, tell me - how did you find it? Did you do the course by correspondence? Have your efforts been fruitful or are you left waiting for someone to die or retire before you are given the opportunity to use your cetificate?
Tell me what you know........
TIA everyone

[Jedo_03]

I did it 6 or 7 years ago... over two weekends
Nothing hard abt it
Seems it's been through an update recently - so I'm thinking abt doing it again... better than leadership and preceptorship and all the other dream ships that people put afloat these days - at least it's VETAB, nationally recognised...
Go for it
Jedo

[Stuart]

I got nothing out of it - except the tick in the box.

However, a few years prior, I did a couple of modules - different institution, different trainer, and found it very useful indeed.

If the trainer focuses on the mechanics of the training structure in Australia, yawnfest.

If the trainer focuses on the mechanics of training, it could be excellent.

It is certainly a useful tick-in-the-box on your CV, irrespective. Just look in the paper - every one advertising a trainer position has Cert IV as a minimum

[SPIRIT]

just remember it means nothing to a state school ,so l didn't do it ,l will read this tread with interest l may have to get of my bum and do it

[AlexS]

I did it a couple of years ago through the local community college, and found it OK. I'd agree with what Stuart says.

If the trainer focuses on the mechanics of the training structure in Australia, yawnfest.

If the trainer focuses on the mechanics of training, it could be excellent.

It is certainly a useful tick-in-the-box on your CV, irrespective. Just look in the paper - every one advertising a trainer position has Cert IV as a minimum

After I did it, I immediately started teaching woodwork at the same college. Then OTEN asked me to teach my old profession, which I needed the Cert. for. Now I do that & teach at DIY Dan's workshop.

BUT...I still reckon the best trainer training came from the army 40+ years ago. Tell 'em what yer gunna tell 'em, tell 'em, then tell 'em what yer told 'em!

[Clinton1]

If the trainer focuses on the mechanics of the training structure in Australia, yawnfest.
If the trainer focuses on the mechanics of training, it could be excellent.

Agree....except if you are managing and administer a course the yawnfest is needed (unfortunately).

I did it a few years ago and have to do it again soon as they upgraded/changed the course.

I did it for work and was already instructing when I did it. I found it helpful and it improved my lessons, although my military training "tell em what you will tell them, tell them, tell them what you told them" is the best method.

Like all courses, it tells you how to do something.... but you need experience to be good at it.
Try the distance education course through Box Hill TAFE in Melbourne.... excellent.

Let me know if you need how to give a military lesson... its an effective system that is well respected (and it actually works quite well!)