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Thread: Cool things we do to the planet
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13th August 2007, 02:53 PM #1
Cool things we do to the planet
Use humans do some really horrible things to the planet but this has to be the coolest.
A floating mass of plastic and rubbish half the size of WA, in the north Pacific.
Oceans of Garbage.Photo Gallery
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13th August 2007, 03:13 PM #2
Hi Grunt,
Depends on the density of the stuff as to how you define the size of the patch methinks, still its a lot of junk, urgh,
As Buckminster Fuller would have remarked, what a waste, all of those materials and energy no longer available,
Sebastiaan"We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer
My blog. http://theupanddownblog.blogspot.com
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13th August 2007, 03:24 PM #3
What do you think Bucky Fuller would have thought of this then?
http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php?id=7
scroll down a bit (reading all the while) till you get to my favourite:
Plastic Bags, 2007
60x72"
Depicts 60,000 plastic bags, the number used in the US every five seconds.
P
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13th August 2007, 03:47 PM #4
If plastic is that good at resisting the elements why aren't we recycling it into boats and outdoor stuff?
Anyone know how different countries compare when it comes to re-cycling cans and plastic?
HH.Always look on the bright side...
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13th August 2007, 03:49 PM #5
The US does Ok with paper, we don't even rate.
HH.Always look on the bright side...
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13th August 2007, 03:53 PM #6
They do better than us on plastic too.
EDIT: This is packaging only.
HH.Always look on the bright side...
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13th August 2007, 03:56 PM #7
However when you expand it to all plastics the US do not even rate....
These numbers are from 2000 so a little old.
HH.Always look on the bright side...
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13th August 2007, 04:00 PM #8
Interesting, it depends what you mean by does OK. The map shows only production of recycled material against population. To be realistic it needs to show production of recycled material against consumption.
On the map stats, in Aus Visy alone claim about 50 tons per 1000 head by my sums, so we can't be far off the map, but it's a bit irrelevant really if it doesn't take into account the percentage of the total amount produced.
There's no getting round it, we just need to use less stuff.
Cheers,
P
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13th August 2007, 04:12 PM #9
We should have a chat to the Fins on how they achieved this with Ali cans...
Full report here if you're interested.
http://www.environment.gov.au/soe/20...son-report.pdf
HH.Always look on the bright side...
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13th August 2007, 04:45 PM #10
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13th August 2007, 04:56 PM #11
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13th August 2007, 04:59 PM #12
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13th August 2007, 05:12 PM #13
Buckminster Fuller predicted that landfills would be mined in the future because of the abundance of materials that would become scarce. Specifically hydrocarbons and metals. I think it was in his book "Critical Path".
Terrific site Midge, a picture is worth a thousand statistics.
As for recycling, we have a major disadvantage to a lot of other countries. Distance. makes it uneconomic to recycle all sorts of stuff. Specifically from all but the largest towns. Im sure Alice Springs doesnt recycle all that Sydney does. That said we do export higher value paper waste to Indonesia and then buy it back again as cheap office paper. Probably why we loaned them the money (A$500 mil) after the Tsunami, to keep our printers going.
Sebastiaan"We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer
My blog. http://theupanddownblog.blogspot.com
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