Electrics & Plumbing - What Am I Allowed To Do?

[chrisp]

When you build a house, the plumber is required to pressure test all the lines, so there shouldn't be any leaks. I don't know if that is true for extensions of existing work though.

I'm not sure either about "existing work" being pressure tested. When I refitted my laundry I had the plumbing redone as it was previously on the surface of the internal walls (ugly). I stripped the walls and had a plumber redo the plumbing (with new taps and fitting). It all looked okay but a day or two I noticed a slight wet patch on the floor. I think you can work out the rest. I redid or retightened one of the connections and the leak stopped. Of course I checked the other connects he did as well.

I'm not too concerned about this as anyone can make a mistake. But it does get up my nose a bit when plumbers claim that DIYers won't do it right.

[JDarvall]

Yeah, and the mongrels probably jaywalk too.

I don't know. But you definetly do. You admitted it AND you said it publicly.........AND you said it a encouraging way......AND as you well know, what we say can get people killed....... Its ILLEGAL silent !......its just so staggering that you just don't get it YET .

. Not to mention rough on the fingertips.

oh, your poor fingertips. .

Well you better take a grasp of this situation Silent. PRONTO. I've seen 2 electricians do it that way. Just imagine how many out there would be doing it.....that could be killed if they continue with such an unsafe method. Better make a few calls eh and put a stop to it.

And you'd better get one of the moderators to delete your coments on jaywalking while your at it, if you haven't already done so........Your comments have already killed one bloke. Just imagine the guilt you'll feel if another jaywalked on your encouragement. honestly...

[pharmaboy2]

But it does get up my nose a bit when plumbers claim that DIYers won't do it right.

As an aside, i've never come across a holier than though plumber or electrician that doesnt recognise that DIY work goes on, nor do they seem to care. the leco I had in the other day, just said, there isnt enough lecos in the country to come close to been able to install all the GPO's, swithc replacements, new lights etc -.

Its only on forums it would seem that I have ever struck a restricted trade that gets uppety about it - now just maybe they aint so uppety in the real world, as typing on a computer gives you the option of arguing for the sake of arguing, and also not with someone who maybe paying your wages that day!

As has been said, gas is a no brainer - stuff it up and really and truly people can get killed rather easily, but as has been said for the rest, its no different to bricklaying, carpentry, concreting - they can alll just as easily kill people as lektrickety and water (?)!

[silentC]

AND you said it a encouraging way

Now you just go back and read what I wrote. Bet you can't find anywhere that I actually advised anyone that they should go ahead and break the law by jaywalking. I said I do it, I said that it was illegal and people get fined for it. But nowhere did I say "you should do it if you think you have the ability". Huh? Huh? Got you there...

[bennylaird]

How many times do we have this type of thread? Like politics and supporting Collingwood, we will never get agreement.

[Howdya do that]

Pizza anyone???

[mick101]

As has been said, gas is a no brainer - stuff it up and really and truly people can get killed rather easily

What do you think happens when you dont check a neutral correctly ? Or a DIY'er thinks that he can check the neutral correctly with 3 phase with going from supply to neutral with the 3 fuses in ? Whilst i dont fool with gas at all..in the very least you get the chance to maybe smell it unlike a poor neutral thats ready to let go.

Stuff up a neutral & you can find your kid dead beside the bathroom sink with the bloody toothbrush still in their hand at bed time.

[mick101]

Pizza anyone???

Yeah get another 12 on the way.

[chrisp]

Stuff up a neutral & you can find your kid dead beside the bathroom sink with the bloody toothbrush still in their hand at bed time.

That is a rather emotional response.

Exactly what kind of tooth brush are your kids using? The ones I've seen are battery operated and recharged using an inductive (non contact) charging caddy. The older ones with cords would are at least double insulated (there should not be a problem with an earthed one). I can't see any problems with the old manual ones.

Just how is it that "you can find your kid dead beside the bathroom sink with the bloody toothbrush still in their hand" because of a neutral problem?

[mick101]

That is a rather emotional response.

Exactly what kind of tooth brush are your kids using? The ones I've seen are battery operated and recharged using an inductive (non contact) charging caddy. The older ones with cords would are at least double insulated (there should not be a problem with an earthed one). I can't see any problems with the old manual ones.

Just how is it that "you can find your kid dead beside the bathroom sink with the bloody toothbrush still in their hand" because of a neutral problem?

Again i rest my case. What do you think happens in an house hold elec cct when a neutral fails ??? If you cant answer that without blinking then you should not be touching house wiring what so ever.

[chrisp]

Again i rest my case. What do you think happens in an house hold elec cct when a neutral fails ??? If you cant answer that without blinking then you should not be touching house wiring what so ever.

Mick,

Don't hide behind the "if you have to ask..." comment.

Please explain the tooth brush theory of yours. I'm truly interested in your logic or reasoning

Chris

[Tas_Dean]

Mick,

Don't hide behind the "if you have to ask..." comment.

Please explain the tooth brush theory of yours. I'm truly interested in your logic or reasoning

Chris

Nothing to do with the toothbrush at all, that was just his scenario.

Do you turn the bathroom tap on when you brush your teeth???

[mick101]

Nothing to do with the toothbrush at all, that was just his scenario.

Do you turn the bathroom tap on when you brush your teeth???

They are not thinking that far ahead mate.

[silentC]

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[chrisp]

Tas_dean and mick101,

You are still not answering the question.

Please explain your scenario and how it ends in a fatality. Otherwise I suspect you are just talking crap.

Come on:

1. The kid has a tooth brush, let's make it electric,
2. the tap is turned on.
3. one hand on the tooth brush, or brush in their mouth,
4. other hand in the water...

Now, you explain how "you can find your kid dead beside the bathroom sink with the bloody toothbrush still in their hand" because of a neutral problem.