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    I am very new to woodworking. I have experiance in painting cars and was woundering if the clear 2 pac lacquer used on cars can be used on wood that has been finished with china wood oil. I would like to get a high luster on some of the stuff i make. Cheers

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    I tried car lacquer on a cabinet once and it peeled off in sheets like
    plastic. I don't think it works over any oil based stain like I used.
    You might get away with it if you use a lacquer sanding sealer
    (for wood) on it first. But I won't use it again.

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    Default clear lacquer

    thanks for that advise. i willl try some other finish to get a good luster. cheers

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    If you search these forums you will find plenty of advice on finishes you can use.
    Reality is no background music.
    Cheers John

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    As JJClark has said it will just peel off or worse still react with the oil and not dry or go "funny"

    Before you apply any finish you need to decide what the finished result is to be.

    If you want a a glossy 2 pack paint as a finish check on that paints normal products that would be under it.

    On timber you can put any type of paint that you can put on any other surface. Auto paints work but you must put under them stains, fillers, or primers that would be used on surfaces they would be applied to or use products which won't react with the finish. You wouldn't be able to paint over any type of oil or grease on auto paint thats why they use a wax and grease remover to make sure the surface is free from such things.

    Oil finish locks you into similar types of paints, If you use oil use a clear that would have the same thinner as the oil. If you use a turps based clear it should be OK over an oil based stain/filler. That is a simple explanation pick a finish and follow the recommendations for that product don't put on a product and then try to place other types on top most times they only cause you greif.

    China wood oil is meant as a finish product on the timber, if you need something different to get a high lustre bypass the oil and just go for the gloss finish. As the oil does not alter the colour greatly only brings out the grain there is no advantage on putting it under a clear.

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    You have some options with oil to raise the lustre ...

    1. Instead of wiping it off buff it with a lambswool bonnet on a rubber sanding disc or with a swansdown mop, or

    2. Wet sand your last coat. This creates a slurry that helps to fill the grain.

    Or do both.

    A top coat of buffed wax will bring it up further.

    The extent of lustre depends very much on the type of timber however.

    If you want really high gloss then forget oil and look at the Rustins stuff ... can't remember the name. Liquid plastic? (That's what it looks like to me anyway).
    Cheers, Ern

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    gee i have a lot to learn about this wood stuff. i have been into metal work and cars for years and now have taken on a new inrterest in wood. with advice like i am getting from you out there i am sure i will get it figgered out eventually thankyou so much. Cheers

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    Use furniture lacquer, its very similar to auto lacquer.
    Regards, Bob Thomas

    www.wombatsawmill.com

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