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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwood View Post
    I've given up on TV, print, and most corporate newssites. I've taken to listening to ABC Radio National while in the shed
    I do too Zenwood however the current government has stacked the ABC Board just like the previous government.

    Why is it that we need political appointments on the ABC Board? Do our governments feel they can influence what is reported? I guess that is one of the essential elements of propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Borer View Post
    I do too Zenwood however the current government has stacked the ABC Board just like the previous government.

    Why is it that we need political appointments on the ABC Board? Do our governments feel they can influence what is reported? I guess that is one of the essential elements of propaganda.

    My favourite radio station, shed or otherwise, is ABC FM. Maximum music, minimum "news", and Margaret Throsby would have to be the best interviewer this country has ever seen. Asks intelligent questions, and actually listens to the answers! Now maybe Kerry O'Brien should take lessons from her?

    And when I get sick of some of their "modern" classical music, I put on the CD player and I get to pick my own music

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee View Post
    It doesn't, never has and never will.

    It is not news nor is it current affairs but a soap style magazine aimed at the ignorant masses with stories like diet fads, neighbours from hell, gossip and the latest underwear to titilate the viewers.

    Snip.

    Peter.
    You forgot about the (supposed) off air dramas and scandals they use to cross-advertise their shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post

    And when I get sick of some of their "modern" classical music, I put on the CD player and I get to pick my own music
    MBS FM, does it make it that far???
    Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain View Post
    MBS FM, does it make it that far???
    No, more's the pity. Like their format and music choice. Always listen to them when I come down to Melbourne.

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    Hugh Mackay always has interesting words and opinions.

    Phil Rees is a BBC jouno that presents a very good analysis and information in his book "Dining with Terrorists".

    Both, regardless of their viewpoints, are worth the time to read their work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt88s View Post
    Is it just me, or does it also seem to you, that anymore reporters and the news in general seems to regard checking their facts as a mere footnote, an afterthought?

    I dunno, but I was reading this article on MSN, http://www.slate.com/id/2165375?GT1=10034
    not really that interesting of an article until you reach this,

    Cows with regional accents. No kidding. This didn't ring any warning bells?......

    They also, in a blurb only 4 paragraphs long, manage to misspell Steven Weinberger's first name, not his last name, but "Steven".

    Now this is only one example, and not a very good one at that, but the utter sloppy craziness of this one set me off. I'm through ranting now.
    Basically it's like this ,"never let the truth get in the way of agood story"
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    Just for whatever it may be worth, some of the OLD (real) journalist get it. Found this guys article through a blog link and after looking it over, the best reporting from the people he works for is from his blog!

    http://www.dailymail.com/story/Opini...rture-flogged/

    You can follow the link to his blog from there if you wish.

    I sent him an email thanking him for having the courage (real courage, not dan rathers kind) to actually speak on the subject and even got a nice thank you ). Wow .

    A number of us are wondering if he will still be employed or even alive next week...

    My point is that there *IS* real news out there but you have to look hard for it, something that is hard to do when one is a wage slave .

    It is all very discouraging, I don't care what side of the political spectrum one is on, based on the "reporting" from the old media we are ALL making decisions on bad, incomplete or biased information. That, my friends, SUCKS dangerously!

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    To take it down a few notches, I recently saw a high circulation magazine advertising a great competition for 'Famlies' on the cover. Correct me if I'm wrong but that seems to be short one 'i' , which brings us back to the multitude of journo's who suffer from the same affliction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingermick View Post
    To take it down a few notches, I recently saw a high circulation magazine advertising a great competition for 'Famlies' on the cover. Correct me if I'm wrong but that seems to be short one 'i' , which brings us back to the multitude of journo's who suffer from the same affliction.
    Yup, the number of misspellings, typos? and grammar errors I see in the media when printed (newspaper, magazine, tv ads, etc.) would put my old English (American variety ) into terminal shock.

    It has got to be those layers of editors and fact checkers responsible for them doing so well .

    Also a spelling checker will not replace a functional brain proof reading something .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox3
    my old English (American variety ) into terminal shock.
    Did you see the link I posted in the
    Isnt english a funny language
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox 3
    Not replace a funtional brain
    Particularly with homophones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingermick View Post
    Did you see the link I posted in the

    This wouldn't quote, but on the subject of "English is a funny language"...
    Indeed it is ). Not sure which is funnier but they can both be fun .

    At least it isn't French, that was brought home to me in something I read ages and ages ago where a bunch of people were accidentally killed with the phrase which can translate as "My damn cough" or "Massacre them all" was interpeted the wrong way in the situation that was happening there. Scary. "Massacrez-Tous" or something like that (it was a LONG *LONG* time ago now)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingermick View Post
    Particularly with homophones
    So editors/proof readers who don't like homophones are homophobic
    Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingermick View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but that seems to be short one 'i' , which brings us back to the multitude of journo's who suffer from the same affliction.
    Beautiful pun you slipped through there, Ginger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    It is interesting to see how often the ABC proclaims loudly how "unbiased" they are, yet show me one Liberal politician who is ex-ABC, bu there are any number of ex-ABC journos now in politics for the ALP (think Alan Carpenter-WA, Gail Martin-NT, Maxine McKew-NSW and the list goes on).
    Not ABC but David Jull was a journalist. As I recall he reported for Channel 10 in Brisbane.

    I am sure that there were ex-ABC journalists that at least worked as staffers for the coalition but I'm frankly too tired to be bothered looking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Personally, I would think it is impossible to be impartial/un-biased, we all see the world through own coloured glasses, whatever that colour might be.
    I think I might agree with that.

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