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[Cliff Rogers]

...constructive info especially those on dial up.

Some of the most 'constructive info' members on this forum do it in such a way that it swamps the poor old buggers on dial up & if they ever drop off the face of the earth, all the good pics will go with them..... nobody dares to complain about them.

[Big Shed]

Would you like to elaborate on that Cliff?

I thought the most swamping took place with the Friday drivel thread?


There are none so deaf as those that do not want to hear

[Big Shed]

I would still like to see the drivel threads, Friday or otherwise, moved to a thread that doesn't show up in iSpy.

Or does that take away the exhibitionist value?

[Rossluck]

I go along with DanP's view. It's there if you want it and it's identified if you wish to avoid it. To me it's harmless, and like quite a few of the topics listed here I just avoid it.

I've always been of the impression that the members who indulge in it are mainly people who work on computers all day and are letting off a bit of steam. Let 'em, I say.

[Groggy]

Some of the most 'constructive info' members on this forum do it in such a way that it swamps the poor old buggers on dial up & if they ever drop off the face of the earth, all the good pics will go with them..... nobody dares to complain about them.

Not sure what you mean here Cliff, how does it swamp dialup and why would it disappear with them if they left?

I use dialup regularly and even on 28k last year it was ok. The worst was 28k using a PDA but I just turned off the graphics.

[Christopha]

What IDIOT started this drivel? Don't we get enough of this stuff on Fridays? AL, you should be ashamed you goataphilic drivel starting tosser.... BAD AL!

[Bleedin Thumb]

First you ban drivel, then you ban harmless banter and humorous comments......is that the type of forum you guys want?

Its the banter, humour and drivel that makes this forum what it is...if the powers to be want to eliminate all that... well that fine I have other things to amuse myself with as I am sure a lot of others have too.

But it seems silly to be driving away members when everyone seems so proud of the growing numbers.

[Christopha]

Perhaps instead of drivel we could have Twaddle?

[ozwinner]

First you ban drivel, then you ban harmless banter and humorous comments......is that the type of forum you guys want?

Lets get it straight right from the start. No one is banning anything.

And you have hit the nail on the head with.

drivel, ........... harmless banter and humorous comments

You have distinguished a difference between drivel and humorous banter.

Harmless banter and humorous comment is fine and encouraged, its the puerile total nonsense drivel that seems to be the problem.

Its not just me, maybe Im just more out spoken than most other people.


Al

[RETIRED]

First you ban drivel, then you ban harmless banter and humorous comments......is that the type of forum you guys want?

Its the banter, humour and drivel that makes this forum what it is...if the powers to be want to eliminate all that... well that fine I have other things to amuse myself with as I am sure a lot of others have too.

But it seems silly to be driving away members when everyone seems so proud of the growing numbers.

] No where has it been said that we are banning the quick quip, the humourous retort or the laconic humour.

I wish that people had to read all the posts instead of just zeroing in on the posts that seem to be the most controversial.

Useless drivel is another point altogether. It clogs the forums, clogs Ispy and serves no useful purpose other than to relieve the boredom of a few.

We have tried to be reasonable with you lot but you seem to want more and more of your way. Guess what, it is not going to happen. As Neil has said previously "It ain't a Democracy but a benevolent Dictatorship". and the benevolence is running short.

Am I getting peed off? Bet your life I am.

While I am in rant mode, there is no neccessity for the letters "" to proceed every thing that goes wrong. Leave them out or don't bother posting.

We realise that we can't please everybody but that is unfortunate and the way it is. I can't believe you lot. We have tried explaining but it falls on deaf ears.

Get this; Drivel will be deleted from any thread on the main part of the forum.

The Friday drivel thread will be closed on Saturday and deleted the following Friday.

Quick quips and humourous replies will be allowed to stay unless they get out of hand. If that happens and the question has been answered the thread MAY be closed.

is banned on any Forum and will be deleted and the poster banned.

If you have a bitch with a mod, PM them don't bring it to the forums. It will be deleted and an infraction given. We don't have to explain anything to you but generally do

[Sturdee]

A lot of valuable members have stopped posting because of the Drivel.

I don’t know if I’m a valuable member or not but I come here for woodwork related subjects ( turning excepted) and maybe as I’m becoming older I have changed but I can’t stand the drivel or twaddle or crap that has invaded the woodwork related forums.

In the past I have made a number of posts, including detailed picture posts, on my workshop and jigs and tools that I have made.

I did this in an effort of sharing and helping others. However for some time now I haven’t bothered.

Not because I haven’t completed any projects but because the desire isn’t there anymore. These posts take a lot of time and effort and to have them ruined by mindless drivel or attempted highjack is IMO insulting to the poster.This is my own view and the other side to seeing the drivel which some seem to enjoy.

To attempt to moderate one’s own thread, as has been suggested, is ridiculous. Why would you need to moderate your own thread back to topic? Why bother to post in the first place if it is apparent that it is not appreciated or wanted.

It has been said that it shows the aussie sarcasm or wit which is part of our charm. Well others may appreciate it but I don’t and I doubt if any other serious thread poster would either. So to me the alleged boring yank forums are becoming more and more attractive.

Now I haven’t been one of those that complain to the Mods and this is not a goodbye post but a simple personal explanation as to why I post a lot less then I used to.

BTW If the forums were like this when I joined I doubt if I would have joined in the first place or post any details of my jigs etc.


Peter.

[ozwinner]

Well said. .

Al

[Big Shed]

Sturdee, that reply was as well thought out as your jigs

Very well put and hopefully that puts the discussion in proper perspective.

Oh, BTW, I certainly regard you as a VERY valuable member and have got a lot of pleasure out of your posts. I have spent countless hours reading them and have learned heaps from your pictures and well designed jigs and other projects.

[Studley 2436]

I don’t know if I’m a valuable member or not

Peter.

Sturdee you have to be one of the valuable guys here. Up there with others like Rocker and Major Panic who do some really good stuff and insipire and teach the rest of us so we can improve our own stuff.

I have the plan for your mortise and tenon jig somewhere but never made it because I basically ended up going darkside when I got some Japanese Chisels boy they do it nice when you are only doing one or two.

Mind you I might get around to it sometime because if you do more than a couple the jig has a huge advantage.

Maybe I am just in a darkside sort of place at the moment. I even have a couple of Japanese "machine" planes which are skew planes with an adjustable fence (hence Machine) that are great for doing the cheeks on Tenons to get a bang on fit.

We were talking about something else weren't we?

I'll try and behave

Studley

[Bleedin Thumb]

Well said. .

Al

Yes I had to reset my hearing aid and all.