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15th March 2007, 10:18 PM #16
come on you cant tell me he isn't a tough dod
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15th March 2007, 11:13 PM #17Senior Member
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Hey there Spirit, great looking deck....
How many square metres is that bad boy? And how many days did it take, working how many hours a day?
I am trying to estimate how long it will take me to put up my 45sqm deck.
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16th March 2007, 09:09 AM #18
its 5m x 10m 8 days with 2 of us but there was hard parts we had to make a part that could be removed to get at the spa motors and we also had to make it sit level with the other deck which wasn't level don't know with we are working today its raining but only ightly ,could do with a rest any how,4 more day and it should be finished we are going to roof over the spa now
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16th March 2007, 10:32 AM #19Senior Member
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Thats given me a bit of hope, then. I have a retired builder coming in to help me with the bush poles, ledger, and bearers (2 days), then I am going to do the joists and decking. Then the old bloke is coming back to help with the roof, then I will do the balustrading and finishing.
I have four weeks off work to accomplish this, so hopefully all will go to plan.
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16th March 2007, 01:21 PM #20
???? it in spenunx
just take the time to get the bearer and joist level and the first few lines of decking strait ,we are puting up the polls today inbeween the rain
wear knee pads it helps heeps
don't forget to tell the wife how hard it is,,, brownie points are to come bysmile and the world will smile with you
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16th March 2007, 09:04 PM #21Senior Member
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Thanks for the help... look out for a thread with pics, coming after Easter, when I begin the deck...
Tell the wife how hard it is? Geeze, that could be taken a few ways, but I guess you were talking about the deck right?
Last time she offered to help in a project I asked her to pick up an 80 kilo limestone block I was using to build a retaining wall.... It's pretty much the only time she has offered....
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17th March 2007, 09:27 PM #22
spelunx l guess so you could take it that way good luck
ok here is a up date on the decksmile and the world will smile with you
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20th March 2007, 10:47 AM #23
its starting to look nice now all painted just need to fit" laserlite sheets" anybody know whitch one wont fade (apolo??)getting the one with bit of tinting ,,then fit the sliding door ,rang the the door mob that l got the other door for the housse thinking to match them up needed one that would pass re pool regs ,no can do bloody hell l hate running around
then fit clear blinds to the out side zipper type
just a tip then building something like this design it to take the blinds off the shelf 2400 1800 so you dont need extentionssmile and the world will smile with you
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20th March 2007, 11:06 PM #24Senior Member
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Wow, it's starting to look great...
Is that rain on the deck? or did you wash it down?
I can't wait to get started on my deck, roll on Easter I say!!!
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21st March 2007, 03:56 PM #25
it rained the day after l painted it
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29th March 2007, 08:18 PM #26Intermediate Member
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Hiya,
I'm still learning about carpentry and I'm just wondering...in the first picture of the deck with the 4 bearers shown parallel to the house, how come they don't extend to sit directly on the timber stumps at the ends? Is that so that that end piece/bearer matches up with the baseboard for the old deck? Are those 4 bearers simply nailed into that angled end bearer?
And finally, I assume that the joists will run to sit on the existing bearers for the house/old deck instead of using a ledger board?
Thanks,
Combo.
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29th March 2007, 08:46 PM #27Senior Member
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Spelunx, it took me a week to build one by myself @35 square meters ...and I nailed mine by hand ....next one I do I am screwing as mentioned by a previous poster ...with hex heads etc,,....oh by the way , it ran at a cost of $3,500 for materials ....and finished in merbu.....
In melbourne there seems to be short supply of "good" lengths of jarra ....which is another good timber to use, and when you order it (whatever you pick).....specify that NO length be shorter than say 2.4mtrs ....unless your doing steps as well (shorts can be used for this).....otherwise you will get lumbered with lengths too short for your job.......and looking at Spirits pics you will see small gaps between the lengths of merbu ..about a nail thinkness .....there is a reason for this .....merbu and jarra for that matter swells and shrinks with climate change, so be sure to leave a small gap or it will lift up ...
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29th March 2007, 08:50 PM #28Intermediate Member
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Hmm upon thinking about it a bit more, is it because if the deck was built the way I described, that some of the joists would be hanging with no bearer underneath them at that end with the requirement for joists at 450 centres?
Why can't the parallel bearers simply run to the end stumps and sit fully instead of partially on them, and that end piece be a joist?
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30th March 2007, 12:32 AM #29Senior Member
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A week huh? Did that include ballustrading, painting, oiling etc? I am nailing mine by hand too, planning to buy myself a set of knee pads and a nail pouch this weekend...
My deck and roof is running close to $9000, but it is off a second story, I am using 10 timber bush poles, 8 of which are 5.6 metres high, and costing $800 all up, which is about half the cost of pine poles. That also includes ballastrading, handrails and $200 for oil and a deck-mate applicator.
I have found some Jarrah decking of exceptional quality at a local timber mill, just across the road from where I live. They primarily do timber flooring, but this stuff arrived with some pin-holes in it. So it is flooring grade timber, just with worm-holes through some of it, instead of third or fourth grade timber, that is not good enough for flooring. I am pretty happy because he sold it to me for $4 a metre, which is only 20c more than the best price I found for Merbau/Batu/Kerpau, etc. It is going to look great because we have polished Jarrah floorboards upstairs as well.
In melbourne there seems to be short supply of "good" lengths of jarra ....which is another good timber to use, and when you order it (whatever you pick).....specify that NO length be shorter than say 2.4mtrs ....unless your doing steps as well (shorts can be used for this).....otherwise you will get lumbered with lengths too short for your job.......and looking at Spirits pics you will see small gaps between the lengths of merbu ..about a nail thinkness .....there is a reason for this .....merbu and jarra for that matter swells and shrinks with climate change, so be sure to leave a small gap or it will lift up ...
Definately planning on leaving gaps between boards....
Cheers for the help!
Jayson
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31st March 2007, 12:12 AM #30Senior Member
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Just as a matter of interest, how many nails did you buy for the deck?
I was just going to purchase the biggest bucket of nails from Bunnies, and take it from there...
Hate to run out half-way through the job though, especially because we live 30k's from town!!!
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