Help. WHAT DO I DO.

[makka619]

A box is a box.

Any competent "Cabinetmaker" should be able to go from a kitchen, to a closet, to a dining room table.

Did he tell you he couldn't do it, or did you assume he could do it?

It's irrelevant.

[makka619]

It seems as though at the moment it's more important to you to get everyone to agree with you that you've been hardly done by than it is to solve your problem. How about moving on from that and looking at what, if anything, you are going to do about it.

From your telling of the story, it sounds like you have been stuffed around, there are always two sides to a story - but let's give you the benefit of the doubt. Now, what are you going to do about it? If you're just blowing off steam and don't intend to do anything, then there's nothing more to say.

LOL yes I am online lying to you.



I find that you trying to psychoanalyse me on the internet pretty weird. Does this matter that much to you? That you think you need to look deeper past my discriptions?

I am blowing off a bit of steam. Of course I know how I feel about it and what I am going to about it. Nothing you say matters. And by all means whatever you want to think, I ain't stopping you.

[Groggy]

Generally the true mark of a tradesman is not whether they get it right first time, but how they respond to fixing problems - whether their fault or not.

If he digs in there is not a lot you can do about it, as the others say, it is in the drawings.

Will he compromise at all?

[silentC]

Why did you bother putting "WHAT DO I DO" in the thread subject line then? You obviously just want to have a whinge.

[silentC]

Actually, now you have really gotten up my nose.

You come on with your "woe is me" tale. A few people offer you suggestions on what to do but you ignore them and just focus on the ones who suggest you might have been in the wrong in the first place. Then you accuse me of trying to psychoanalyse you. All I'm trying to do is focus on solving your problem and moving on from who is to blame. Then you say you know what you are going to do and what I say or think doesn't matter. So exactly what do you want us to do for you? If you didn't want anything, then why post.

I feel a bit sorry for the guy having to deal with you actually.

[martrix]

............whatever.

The sun is shining outside, have a nice day

[makka619]

Why did you bother putting "WHAT DO I DO" in the thread subject line then? You obviously just want to have a whinge.

Is that such a bad thing.

Stop reading so much into it.

It shouldn't matter to you about any of my responses

[makka619]

............whatever.

The sun is shining outside, have a nice day

Thanks You too.

I just don't want this thread to drag on off topic. As you have seen from some of the recent responses, it will go around in circles for ever. I have an opinion, know how I feel and what I plan to do about it.

Thanks for your input though, honestly.

[silentC]

I'm sorry, but when I read "Help. WHAT DO I DO" I assumed that you wanted help. My mistake...

[makka619]

I'm sorry, but when I read "Help. WHAT DO I DO" I assumed that you wanted help. My mistake...

silentC: you know I was upset. And probably started this thread in haste. I apologise for that.

Really my problem here is not something to try and communcate via the net. I should sort it out on my own where it is a reality.

I have not meant to offend you. I just think it's getting a little out of hand.

[silentC]

I just think it's getting a little out of hand

I agree. Stop biting everyone's heads off and we'll all get on fine

We're all really just decent people trying to help. That's all. Hope you get it sorted out to your satisfaction.

[JDarvall]

... gone all lovey dovey.

[silentC]

It's all you need

[Jack E]

<O</O
It's been my experience that most of these specialists make up their mind what they are going to do within a very short time after seeing the job. You can stand there for as long as you like explaining exactly what you want, and why you want it, but it makes not the slightest bit of bloody difference because they are not listening.
<O
That's why I have a driveway that slopes the wrong way<O
That's why I have house extension slab that is 10 mm lower than the original and which, by the way had to boxed up three times because the bloke didn't know what a right angle was.
That's why the cupboard doors open the wrong way and the drawers are on the wrong side of my computer desk.<O
That's why our air conditioner didn't work correctly for nearly two years because of over gassing.

<O

I don't think over gassing an air con fits in with the rest of your list.

You said yourself that if you want something done properly do it yourself,

Well go ahead and stop having a go at tradies.

Some people need to learn that you can't do everything yourself, be it for legal reasons, required skills or essential equipment requirements.

The biggest lesson to learn is that YOU need to ensure that the tradesman understands exactly what you want, and that if he doesn't deliver, he doesn't get paid.

BTW, what is it that you do for a living?

Cheers, Jack

[makka619]

I think that all tradies need to communicate with you when they are changing the plans from something you specify and they verbally agree can and will be done.

If it is something you want and they say it is something they can do, then it adds to your decision in hiring this person for the job. If they can't do something that you specifically tell them you need then they should be honest and tell you so. If for some reason they don't understand it can't be done until a later date, they need to inform you as they find out before changing the design.

Things are solved this way, it gives clients the opportunity to think about what they would like to do if the original plan can't go ahead. By the way the builder said he could have put the gap in there, with enough room on the wood to hold the hinges. Perhaps not ideal, but something I would like to have had the choice in deciding on.

It is the same everywhere in professional businesses. You are there to help the client; that is your job. You need to keep in contact with the client with any problems no matter how seemingly small. It the client asks for something one way and it can't be done, you call them and let them know.

You can not assume that just because it can't be done then you will do it how you see fit. I could have chosen sliding doors to get what I want. Yes that would probably cost more, but who is he to make the decision that I won't be able to afford sliding doors. There are many options, but as long as I am not informed that he can't do what I want then I never get the chance to look into them.

It is his job as the designer to draw up the architectural plans to get what I want. If I knew how to do this, I would have had no reason for hiring him and done it myself and gone straight to a builder. His job is to tell me what can be done, once he agrees that what I ask for is possible and will be done I will take his word for it.

If he must change the plans because it is impossible to do, I need to be told. He can not assume that just because he realises it can't be done the way I ask, he can change it without telling me and I will be happy.