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    Yes, OC spray is standard issue.

    BUT

    The effective range of OC is two metres. Would you stand two metres away from a bloke with an axe in his hand, which would give him about 1.86378589753 metres reach? Bit close for my liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanP View Post
    Yes, OC spray is standard issue.

    BUT

    The effective range of OC is two metres. Would you stand two metres away from a bloke with an axe in his hand, which would give him about 1.86378589753 metres reach? Bit close for my liking.

    Dan
    Mmmmm might just be a close shave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanP View Post
    Yes, OC spray is standard issue.

    BUT

    The effective range of OC is two metres. Would you stand two metres away from a bloke with an axe in his hand, which would give him about 1.86378589753 metres reach? Bit close for my liking.

    Dan
    Yes, fair enough.

    Sounds like he was also on an Icecapade! I guess the officer in this situation and no other option.
    Do you think the Tazer is a good option? I think that you have to hit the person on the skin with it? They're also about $1800 a pop too.

    Sounds also like the fwit the drove 3km down the wrong way of a highway causing a head-on (maltby bypass) was also on Ice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedin Thumb View Post
    Mmmmm might just be a close shave.
    Nonsense. You still have a clearance of 136.21410247mm.

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    Depends on the length of your nose, as you may tell from my avatar I have recently been in a similar situation.

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    I think the comments in the press are funny and really reflect just how dumb they are.

    Why is it they insist the Police have all these "options": truncheons, pepper spray, shoot in the leg etc?

    Why hasn't anyone commented on the fact that if you corner a Policeman while you're swinging an axe, and threatening him; he WILL shoot you to defend himself. Who, if any of us, in the same position, would try a pepper spray?

    If not 100% effective immediately you get your hair parted. Shoot him in the leg (assuming you can) and he is going to part your hair again. Get close enough to use a truncheon and you're history.

    Far simpler to say how poorly considered his actions were, given the obvious outcome. Hopefully then others will know what to expect. Poor bloody coppers will have bad dreams over this for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy View Post
    I think the comments in the press are funny and really reflect just how dumb they are.
    There was a headline some years ago (late 70's) in the Age that has stuck with me.

    Young Womans Naked Body Found.
    Police are probing.

    It still cracks me up.

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    Dan P our spray in SA has a range of 3 metres. but id still pick the gun when faced with an axe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftden View Post
    but id still pick the gun when faced with an axe.
    Make your mind up, gun or pick?

    I hope Im never in a situation to choose, but me or him?
    Blam, blam, oops.. sorry

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    Now I am reading that it was a Tomahawk and not an Axe. Fair difference when its compared with extendable batons..

    The journalist is saying he had a Tomahawk and the Police say Axe.

    From the Age journalist....

    "While police were at Mr Bugeja's front door, he left via the side gate and returned to Mr Catania's house, where he allegedly attacked cars with the tomahawk.
    When police found Mr Bugeja, he allegedly advanced on them with the tomahawk, forcing them to produce capsicum spray and extendable batons. When he continued to walk forward, one officer shot him twice.
    Mr Bugeja's mother wailed"


    From the Police....

    "There was a male who was in possession of an axe, the members initially produced their batons and (capsicum) sprays and the male continued to come at them," Ms Nicholson said.
    "A call was made upon him to put the axe down and that call was made several times. He continued to come at the members and, as a result of that, a number of shots were fired."

    The whole article is here. I just want to know the facts.
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    A tomahawk would be just as dangerous, if not more so. An axe is difficult to recover once a swing is taken but a tomahawk can be re-swung very quickly and redirected during the swing more easily, making it more dangerous. Nasty, wouldn't want to face either one.

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    Next it will be a Swiss army knife. Hey Sarge he's got that little scissor's thing pointed at me!!!!

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