Plumbing and Building Queries????? S.A.

[pawnhead]

Some people genuinly think that way, and your trying to tell me that anyone can mess around with public infastructure.

I'm just trying to rev you up bricksie. If I put my mattock through a gas line then I'm not going to fix it with duck tape and barbed wire. I promise (fabric gaffa tape is stronger).

[bricks]

I know that pawny but Weve already established that your not an idiot, but that word was created because some people are.

And i just though of a better reason why you cant do anything in the road.
YOU DONT OWN IT!

sewer gas water stormwater connections are yours because you pay for them to be done the correct way ( they are there to be connected to...)

Digging in the road is like digging through your neibours loungroom, you cant do it, and you cant connect onto his sewer line either, that is why your house has a boundary.

[Tools]

Some people genuinly think that way, and your trying to tell me that anyone can mess around with public infastructure.

Tools that is why people arnt allowed to do it.

Maybe not in SA, but as I said, in Victoria you can.

An example of requirements for road openings:

http://www.portphillip.vic.gov.au/ro...ng_permit.html


Note page two where it says "A road opening permit is issued when a plumber,builder or someone from the public requires to cut open council assets such as footpath,road or nature strip.Common reasons for road opening permit are:
- water tappings
- stormwater connections
-water main construction
- sewer main construction"

Naturally there are fees and conditions and inspections required, but anyone can do it.


With water tappings, as I also said, the tapping must be done by the authority, but the preparation and excavation is done by others (including beyond the property boundary), be they the plumber,builder,owner,or whoever.

http://www.citywestwater.com.au/abou...l_tappings.pdf

Page two talks of the requirements for preparing for the authority.



Stormwater tapping are similar.There are permits required, fees and inspections, but anyone can do it.

http://www.bayside.vic.gov.au/roads_storm_water.htm

New sewer connections are done by the authority or its contractors, who usually also do any excavations.

Tools

[Bleedin Thumb]

I think in NSW you can do it yourself if you have the right qualifications and get the right permits and inspections before backfill.
They certainly make you jump through the hoops to get all the paperwork. I spent 4hrs at a Sydney Water counter once in order to get a permit to drill a main in a footpath!

EDIT I think gas and telecomunications are the only exceptions, they want their own contractors to carry out the work.

[Tools]

Bleeding, I think a lot depends on the council.I got a permit a few weeks ago to run stromwater across a road to a pit,and all they wanted to see was what we wanted to do...no insurances,no traffic management plan.

Tools

[Bleedin Thumb]

Tools that goes up here too. Also the size of the job - you say you want to lower sewer manhole and they insist on doing it themselves but you can do a subdivision and place all the mains in and its not a problem.

Go figure?

[bricks]

Just though id re-inforce what i started this thread for.

People who want to know how to's or tips or what ever.

The legal aspect of this obviously seems to be at least different or in some areas non-existent depending on where you are in this grand country. From now on my response will be "if you cant work out the legal aspect of your job PAY someone who does"!

There has also been a lot of slinging about how tradies feel about home owners diying their projects.
I dont mind, if i did i certainly would'nt give you advice.

You know who i hate, people who carry out businesses without liscences or outside of their liscence, duping unaware people and leaving dogey jobs. Theese people should be strung up and shot...

I ve also noticed some people wish to pick apart my advice and seem for some reason to be hell bent on making me look like a halfwit.
My advise is good, my ideas will work,

YOU SHOULD ALWAYS THOUROGHLY INVESTIGATE ANY ADVICE ESPECIALLY ON AN OPEN FORUM LIKE THE INTERNET.

i started this thread because i though that there was alot of bad info being displayed here, it stands to reason that posters of those ideas will think the same of my ideas. You dont have to listen, you dont have to take my advise,

[bricks]

Thats not directed at you TOOLS,

[Tools]

No problem.I didn't take it that way,just wanted to clarify the situation in victoria.

Tools

[pawnhead]

I ve also noticed some people wish to pick apart my advice and seem for some reason to be hell bent on making me look like a halfwit.

Well you may be refering to me, so I'll just add that the only person that can make you look like a halfwit is yourself. I'd give people more credit than to take someone else's word for it. You're judged by what you say and I don't think you're a half wit.

It doesn't matter to me who makes a post. If I believe there's a better way, or if I believe that there's something wrong with the advice that they're giving then I'll say so.

i started this thread because i though that there was alot of bad info being displayed here,

Well you should just point it out wherever it is then. I'm sure it would be a benefit to the forums if there's dodgy advice there somewhere. I haven't trawled through your post history, but the only thing I can see you've criticized is my suggestion of using duct tape on a gas pipe. Of course that's dodgy and I wasn't really being serious, although it would stop a leak until the proper authorities could come to fix it.

[journeyman Mick]

......................i started this thread because i though that there was alot of bad info being displayed here...................

Bricks,
don't know if you thought that my advice to use an "O" ring to seal a spout or what ever to a nipple was "bad info", but I'll happily defend it against all comers. I've seen it used by many plumbers, some of which I've worked with, on and off, for many years so I know their work and trust their judgement.

Edit: Bricks, I refer you to this thread:https://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=44220
where you say: "Do not use o-rings, washers, or anything else they may wreck your tapware." Please explain how using an "O" ring in the way I suggest will wreck your tap ware and/or any reasons you may have against my suggested use.
Mick

[bricks]

Some people genuinly think that way, and your trying to tell me that anyone can mess around with public infastructure.

How do you convert that to personal criticism?
It's a fact pawny, some people will actually do things like duct tape and wire for a repair.

[bricks]

I'm just trying to rev you up bricksie. If I put my mattock through a gas line then I'm not going to fix it with duck tape and barbed wire. I promise (fabric gaffa tape is stronger).

Is this your normal response when someone criticizes you? sounds like you know exactly how i meant it.

[ozwinner]

Ok everyone, time for a chill pill.

Al

[OBBob]

C'mon this was destined to be a 10 pager from the first post!!