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    I suppose when I am places like changerooms with my kids and I am waiting outside the changeroom I make a bit of a show of being there with them. Yep there is a bit of anti male sentiment out and about but you can't do much about that. You just have to try and makesure you don't end up being a victim of it.

    My kids are noisy enough so we make enough noise, I say you go in there and I'll wait out here. If they take time I call through the door to hurry up they give me lip back I threaten to think up some punishment for them it's all good fun but everyone else thinks I am just being a good Dad.

    The media doesn't report females sexually mollesting children much because it isn't allowed by the various feminist lobbies.

    I notice too that women can nag harass scold scorn a man until he is past his wit's end but if he even raises his voice he has offended her rights. In the past if a woman behaved so badly she got a smack in the chops to put her in her place. Today a man is permitted no defence. GAWD I even had the ex SWMBO pursue me out to the shed when I was only trying to escape from her harassing attack. A piece of hardwood about 2 foot long and inch and half square fell to the floor and I picked it up she was still in my face and hysterical and only because she was stressed with an exam that week. Nothing I had done she was inventing it as she went along and digging herself and her perception of me deeper and deeper and I was holding that piece of timber and thinking it would be just so easy to belt her until she died and it would be just what she deserved. Rest easy guys I put the timber back on the shelf and stepped away from her. But this feminist thing of all rights and no responsibilities is a cancer.

    Yep there is a lack of respect both for men and women and it suits the activists really well . People like us in the real world have to pay a price for it though

    Studley
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    I more or less agree with most of the comments that have been made.

    We live in an age where society is more openly informed so parents and carers see dangers so must be ever vigilant against sex offenders etc.

    I was very surprised at a report a few days ago that 70% of all sex offences occur against kids under 12.

    Parents & carers must be ever vigilant.
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    Richard Fiedler, a broadcaster with ABC radio, often talks bout how males are misrepresented in today's society. But let's face it, it takes just one knucklehead like Martin Bryant and all of the millions of good ones are blown out of the water. That's it.

    We can say hello to a kid in a shopping centre, and defend it, but what about that poor girl in Perth, shopping with her brother and step dad (from memory), and she committed the crime of using the toilets.

    There are no answers, just pain all around....

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    I read a very interesting article a few months ago. In a study of managers and abuse of their powers, there was no difference between females and males; about 5% of both abused their power in the workplace.

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    think about other peoples labels
    How about 'man' and 'woman' for some labels we should think about?

    I find it interesting that these people will flock to a label and not stop to realise that 'if all humans should be treated on the strength of their merits' then its probably better to just use the single label of 'human'... till a new label is needed. i.e. tosser, moron, thief, fool....

    Feminism (as an example) is not an 'ism that is needed in my world... I'm happy to stick with just treating everyone with a bit of common decency.

    I also find that those that want to jump behind an 'ism generally feel pretty free with attacking those that are
    1) not of their persuasion, and
    2) 'stronger' than them.
    Combine it with the "Oh, poor bloody me" whinge and its a sure sign of an oxygen thief.

    It gives me the ##### to see this willingness to 'attack the stronger'... reminds me of a flock of crows pecking the eyes out of a cow thats stuck in a dam.

    At the end of the day though.... they can all stick it, 'cause I don't give too much thought to them....
    I think that if I'm going to influence anything, it won't be the faceless collection of whingers and fools called 'society', it will be those close to me.
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    click!


    Try ABC radio. Mellow and generally okay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by meerkat View Post
    rayc what you are saying is somewhat true. BUT

    was that nice enough ?

    Now this is not directed at rayc .....


    Why is it that more money is spent on womens health than mens ? (Just as many men die from testicular cancer as women do from breast cancer)


    I'll put the box away now
    I have no info on the other parts of this post (that is snipped for space reasons) but this is not correct.
    Breast cancer has a lifetime risk of 1 in 13 for women and testicular cancer is about 1 in 1000.
    I am not sure what the breakdown of health spending between women and men is but I have never seen health dollars being discriminated by gender. Women see their GP more than men due to pregnancy related issues and contraception. After the age of 50 the visit numbers correlate with the ratio of men to women in each age group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry B View Post
    Breast cancer has a lifetime risk of 1 in 13 for women and testicular cancer is about 1 in 1000.
    That sounds about right, but what about the lifetime risk of developing some form of prostate cancer being approximately 30% (actual deaths is around 3% but we all twist statistics to our advantage)(source: Urological Society of Aust and NZ).

    Why, because the government spends Millions promoting Breast Screens for women including dedicated trucks driving around this state all the time. Where's the van for men to have their prostates checked!:mad:


    Have a nice day - Cheers

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    yep I do know that the incidence of Breast Cancer in women and Prostate Cancer in men is basically the same. As said lots of attention for Breast cancer and not much for Prostate. But that is all to do with women getting noisy about it

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    Exactly Studley,

    Which is why Movember is a great idea. I would have joined but since I've had one for almost 10 years I'm already ahead. I donate mostly to the Cancer fund anyway as there have been a couple of cases of cancer (thankfully both cured) in my family and one very close friend have gone because of it.
    Have a nice day - Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Studley 2436 View Post
    I suppose when I am places like changerooms with my kids and I am waiting outside the changeroom I make a bit of a show of being there with them. Yep there is a bit of anti male sentiment out and about but you can't do much about that. You just have to try and makesure you don't end up being a victim of it.

    My kids are noisy enough so we make enough noise, I say you go in there and I'll wait out here. If they take time I call through the door to hurry up they give me lip back I threaten to think up some punishment for them it's all good fun but everyone else thinks I am just being a good Dad.

    The media doesn't report females sexually mollesting children much because it isn't allowed by the various feminist lobbies.

    I notice too that women can nag harass scold scorn a man until he is past his wit's end but if he even raises his voice he has offended her rights. In the past if a woman behaved so badly she got a smack in the chops to put her in her place. Today a man is permitted no defence. GAWD I even had the ex SWMBO pursue me out to the shed when I was only trying to escape from her harassing attack. A piece of hardwood about 2 foot long and inch and half square fell to the floor and I picked it up she was still in my face and hysterical and only because she was stressed with an exam that week. Nothing I had done she was inventing it as she went along and digging herself and her perception of me deeper and deeper and I was holding that piece of timber and thinking it would be just so easy to belt her until she died and it would be just what she deserved. Rest easy guys I put the timber back on the shelf and stepped away from her. But this feminist thing of all rights and no responsibilities is a cancer.

    Yep there is a lack of respect both for men and women and it suits the activists really well . People like us in the real world have to pay a price for it though

    Studley
    Good stuff Mate. Thanks for your honesty. You've just reinforced one of the reasons I like this forum so much - you meet good, honest people - mostly.

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    Instead of griping about how much money is spent on our ladies health issues, why not take the stance of "great now that funding and project is secure & working let's see if we can do the same for males"
    Don't begrudge, bemoan, and be jealous, instead let's be proactive .


    let Aussie males be as proactive as the other lobby groups, and watch things improve.
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    catchy catchphrase needed here, apply in writing to the above .

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    Quote Originally Posted by E. maculata View Post

    let Aussie males be as proactive as the other lobby groups, and watch things improve.

    Well put old chap..

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    let Aussie males be as proactive as the other lobby groups, and watch things improve.
    gotta get over the 'can't be stuffed' hurdle first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Butcher View Post
    That sounds about right, but what about the lifetime risk of developing some form of prostate cancer being approximately 30% (actual deaths is around 3% but we all twist statistics to our advantage)(source: Urological Society of Aust and NZ).

    Why, because the government spends Millions promoting Breast Screens for women including dedicated trucks driving around this state all the time. Where's the van for men to have their prostates checked!:mad:


    Now wouldn't that be a great job. Spending all day cooped up in a bus knowing that every guy that comes in is there for one purpose only. Digit time!
    The problem is that there are good and bad outcome for health screening. Some examples
    Screening with pap smears is very effective. A premalignant condition can be detected and very effective treatment is available significantly reducing the rate of progression to cancer of the cervix.

    Screening with mammogram detects early cancer (not premalignant but actual disease). This gives the possibility of early treatment resulting in a reduction of mortaility for breast cancer of about 30%- but only on women over 50 yrs. No significant reduction in mortality occurs for women screened under 40. Between these ages is a grey area.

    Prostate screening by DRE (the finger in the date) over age 50 can detect cancer of the prostate earlier than otherwise but no improvement in survival has been demonstrated. This is why screening of asymptomatic men is not advocated by the RACGP (GP college) at present. The problem is that there is no simple treatment for early prostate cancer like there is with the pap smear changes. If it is found you a stuck with a dilemma. You have to choose between surgery that might give you a cure but might also render you incontinent and almost certainly impotent versus non curative treatment that will prpbably keep the tumour at bay for many years. It may eventially kill you but you will probably die of something else before this happens. How do you decide? I haven't yet had to make this decision but my grandfather did die of prostate disease so my risk is raised.
    Decisions that we have to make.
    Last edited by Terry B; 29th November 2006 at 11:38 PM. Reason: typo
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