how do i gyprock up a window?

[transit]

Hi all, i've got a window approx 1800H x 900W in the lounge which i want to cover up with gyprock so it is flush with the wall.

I will be leaving the window (aluminium frame) in place and will make a frame inside using 70 x 35mm and then screw on a sheet of gyprock so it looks like part of the wall once painted.

My question is how do i get the gyprock rebated into the jam so that it sits flush with the walls? After i pull off the architrave i will have the jam exposed which will already be almost flush with the wall. Because the gyprock is 10mm thick, i will need to somehow chisel 10mm off the entire jam so the gyprock sits flush with it.

I hope this makes sense.

Is this the only way to do it?

Thanks for any suggestions.

[Vernonv]

Whats stopping you from removing the window altogether?
That would simplify the whole process.

[transit]

Whats stopping you from removing the window altogether? That would simplify the whole process.

May i ask how it would simplify the process? Do you mean that it would be somehow be easier to cover it up by removing the window?

I was thinking that leaving the window in place would be less hassle as far as waterproofing and also allowing the window to be re-opened down the track for re-sale-ability.

I was thinking of using knock ins or masonry plugs to attach the timber frame 10mm into the rebate (brick) and then screwing the gyprock to the frame, stopping it up and then painting over it.

[Big Shed]

Have you considered using a router to remove 10 mm from the reveal? That way you can attach the gyproce flush with the existing gyprock.

Must say I am somewhat non-plussed as to why someone would want to put gyprock in front of a window, won't look pretty from the outside!

[Vernonv]

What I was getting at was that ripping the window out would be easier than trying to neatly take 10mm off the reveal.

I must admit I am somewhat confused by what you are trying to do - do you want to cover the window with gyprock on the inside but do nothing on the outside :confused:. Are you planning to leave the glass in the window?

If that's the case then try Big Shed's advice and use a router.

[transit]

Thanks bigshed, i never thought of using a router! ...mainly because i don't own one. If i can get a cheapie from bunny's, i'll try this method. Yeah the outside will look bad but it's down the side and not easily viewed. It's rendered brick so i'll also do a frame on the outside and use some FC sheet to cover the outside of window.

Thanks Vernon, yeah the idea is to block off the window as the owner wants to rearrange the lounge room and doesn't want the window in the way of her new furniture

[Eastie]

I've seen this type of job before: it nearly killed a mate of mine when he fell through unsupported plaster through a pane of glass. The d-head who did it didn't bother telling subsequent trades when later renovating, and worse at the same time the moron unwired a light switch and power point leaving live conductors behind the plaster.

If this is the sort of shoddy crap that you want help with, I'd hope others have the decency to steer clear - last time I looked this isn't a forum on how to dodgy up things.

The advice you've recieved on removing the window and doing it properly is as much advice as you should get.

[transit]

I've seen this type of job before: it nearly killed a mate of mine when he fell through unsupported plaster through a pane of glass. The d-head who did it didn't bother telling subsequent trades when later renovating, and worse at the same time the moron unwired a light switch and power point leaving live conductors behind the plaster.

If this is the sort of shoddy crap that you want help with, I'd hope others have the decency to steer clear - last time I looked this isn't a forum on how to dodgy up things.

The advice you've recieved on removing the window and doing it properly is as much advice as you should get.

Eastie, i'm not sure why you think this job is considered shoddy crap and dodgy? What is wrong with covering in a window using a frame with 450 centres and nogs which is then gyprocked over? No-one will be able to fall through it with the frame in place - they'd have as much chance as falling through any part of the wall. What sort of idiot would be hurling themselves at a wall? It sounds like your mate fell through an UNSUPPORTED section of gyprock... a big difference.

[toddles]

Eastie: chill out and take it easy. If you've got a suggestion about how to improve the job based on your prior experience then phrase it as a suggestion or at the very least as a cautionary tale - no need to be demeaning or vitriolic. This is a friendly advice forum so if you feel the need to post things like:

If this is the sort of shoddy crap that you want help with, I'd hope others have the decency to steer clear - last time I looked this isn't a forum on how to dodgy up things.
The advice you've recieved on removing the window and doing it properly is as much advice as you should get.

then I'd have a serious think about whether that's an appropriate way to address another person, especially when it seems you haven't read their posts properly.

Transit: What you're suggesting is perfectly reasonable.
I'd like to make two suggestions though:
1) Have a think about using "rondo" which is galvanized metal alternative to wooden stud. With a hack saw and a packet of self-tapping screws it's easy to make a cheap strong frame that you can attach 10mm back into the existing window jam.
2) Using plaster and plaster tape to join the gyproc to the wall over the existing jam you'll get a pretty good finished without rebating the wood with a router (given the jam isn't proud of the wall). I'd recommend using dobs of the blue gyproc glue without screws to attach the gyproc to the rondo/stud frame, plastering the small gap around the jam and then taping and plastering to produce a smooth finish.

[transit]

I'd like to make two suggestions though:
1) Have a think about using "rondo" which is galvanized metal alternative to wooden stud. With a hack saw and a packet of self-tapping screws it's easy to make a cheap strong frame that you can attach 10mm back into the existing window jam.
2) Using plaster and plaster tape to join the gyproc to the wall over the existing jam you'll get a pretty good finished without rebating the wood with a router (given the jam isn't proud of the wall). I'd recommend using dobs of the blue gyproc glue without screws to attach the gyproc to the rondo/stud frame, plastering the small gap around the jam and then taping and plastering to produce a smooth finish.

Thanks toddles, some good advice there. Using gyprock glue only without screws or clouts will definitely make the job easier to plaster afterwards. I'll also check out the rondo for the framing.

[Jim Carroll]

Transit and toddles I agree with you in the way Eastie put forward his views, but the gist of what he is getting to is that you can make some things fool proof but you cannot make them idiot proof, as idiots alway find a way to break things.

The concern I would have is with the glass on the outside if some idiot was to punch the wall or teenage shenanigans go through the plaster then they would smash the glass then there would be a more disasterous accident. Have you seen how some kids can destroy a house and they do not know what is on the other side of the wall.

Dont tell the insurance company what you have done.

I would get rid of the window completely.