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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddles View Post

    Why does it feel like we're moving towards a more sneaky version of the 'greed is good' generation again?
    mmmm, yes....a revisit to the lofty heights of the late eighties? the one we had to have...again?
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    Actually owning a free to air license which is basically a license to print money means the ABC is worth something. They could sell it and then just put out for tender everything that the ABC should do like make historical docos and the like.

    Can't see why that shouldn't happen.

    I thought the greed is good generation was the Baby Boomers? After all Gen X ers were too young then to be trading shares. Gen Y hadn't even made it to kindy

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    This very topic was discussed recently in Canberra at Senate Estimates (interupted by a suicidal bogong moth):
    Senator CONROY—Is there a natural program break in Inspector Rex? Can we look forward to ads in Inspector Rex?
    Mr Brown—We have not put Inspector Rex on the list of programs to be dealt with.
    A moth having flown into one of the spotlights and smoke coming out of the light—
    Senator CONROY
    —We are on fire.
    Senator Coonan—That is a natural break!
    Senator CONROY—This is definitely a natural program break. If SBS are covering this, they can put an ad in right now. We were just wondering whether we could look forward to Inspector Rex having ads.
    Mr BrownInspector Rex is a drama. There is a guideline established for natural breaks in drama programs and, if those guidelines identify breaks inside Inspector Rex, then, yes, Inspector Rex will have breaks.
    Senator CONROY
    When he stops for a drink or has some food? I am just wondering what your definition of a natural break is. The burning bogongs are back. Is that you on fire over there, Senator Fierravanti-Wells? Are you burning something? We may need a natural program break here. The devil has arrived: I can smell the incense burning.


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    Well I hate ads at the best of time, and have them in the same category as mosquitoes and dumb traffic lights (you know, the ones that stop fifty cars and trucks for five minutes to let one wander through).

    I understand the economics of it, ie., economic rationalism, rampant capatialism, ram it down their throats over and over so that they buy it automatically the next time they're shopping, and so on!

    But that's why we look to sanctuaries like SBS and the ABC to avoid ads, insect repellant to get rid of the mossies, and live in semi-rural areas to avoid traffic lights. Well, that's what I do anyway.

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    But Ross you can get that on cable can't you?

    The arguement for selling ABC is that the government can't control it so sell it to someone who can. Then the Government can get on with regulating things which is the one thing it is best for.

    Mind you the media is so political witness the new media regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossluck View Post
    Well I hate ads at the best of time, ........

    I understand the economics of it, ie., economic rationalism, rampant capatialism, ram it down their throats over and over so that they buy it automatically the next time they're shopping, and so on!

    But that's why we look to sanctuaries like SBS and the ABC to avoid ads, insect repellant to get rid of the mossies, and live in semi-rural areas to avoid traffic lights. Well, that's what I do anyway.
    Hear Hear,
    I would have the fastest trigger finger in the east on the remote control

    It absolutely amazes me [when I'm not quite quck enough] as to who in their right mind would be interested in washing products, buying a car etc at 10.00 pm

    I believe that the word boycott is not legal to use - so I won't - but surely blind Freddie would be able to see that if you annoy people enough with some insulting, mind numbing tripe that some people would avoid your product like the plague or go out of their way to buy their opposition's product . Are you [those responsible] listening????

    Thank the tech gods for recorders with up to 5 times scan speeds which allow the reduction of interruption time to be dealt with in a few seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Studley 2436 View Post
    But Ross you can get that on cable can't you?

    The arguement for selling ABC is that the government can't control it so sell it to someone who can. Then the Government can get on with regulating things which is the one thing it is best for.

    Mind you the media is so political witness the new media regulations.

    Studley

    Maybe you're right. I'm clinging onto the past a bit. Cable's not the answer for me. It's not the cost of it, it's just that it seems to rerun the same old programs over and over and over, and it's cultural tone just doesn't do it for me.

    Turning over to SBS or the ABC from the commercial stations was like stepping from a truck into a roller. Now SBS has gone with the money. I suppose we should all just give up and head down to Macca'a for dinner and have a good old shop ....

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    I thought the greed is good generation was the Baby Boomers? After all Gen X ers were too young then to be trading shares. Gen Y hadn't even made it to kindy
    trouble with the Gen X and Y'ers is that the Baby Boomers raised them....

    SBS and ABC will have to fight their corner to survive the current Fed Govt. I don't think having independant minded media is particularly wanted with the current mob.... after all, it does nothing to keep interest rates down and the incumbants at the trough.

    Raising revenue through adds destroys the ABC and SBS's differentiation, helping to make them similiar to the commercial stations and assisting in eroding their support base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinton1 View Post

    Raising revenue through adds destroys the ABC and SBS's differentiation, helping to make them similiar to the commercial stations and assisting in eroding their support base.

    Yes.

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