showers washed the colour away

[dazzler]

Hi Dribbler,

Tell me to get stuffed if you like ,

but

You really should have given the bloke time to rectify the problem before asking for compensation. From your thread it all seems pretty aggressive. I understand the annoyance but a deep breath may be a better option, just ask for him to complete the job satisfactorily. But give him, and the slab, a little time. I aint no concreter and it would seem from those in the know that he has screwed it up somewhat.

If he cant fix it then you can move to the small claims court or equivelant in VIC.

Courts REALLY like patient, relaxed and considerate claimants.
Courts DETEST angry, impatient and inconsiderate claimants.

You really need to be the smiley face. Specially when he's got your money

cheers

dazzler

[Dribbler]

Dazzler,

I'm trying to work out where the aggressive part is. One does not have to be a brain surgeon to work out what he wants to do is simply not what I have paid for. Is it to much for a customer to ask for what he/she has paid for? Believe me I have not shown the slightest bit of anger or aggression towards the concreter. Don’t mix up annoyed and disappointed with aggressive.....preparing to take matters further if need be is smart not aggressive. Might I add that letting him put colour in the sealer would only land me in a bigger mess if later the drive should have to be re-surfaced as the sealer would have to be cleaned off, so its very important that its fixed the correct way and not a quick fix from the beginning....We all know that quick fixes can lead to bigger problems later. Oh and about telling you to get stuffed.....well only an aggressive person would do that.
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[johnc]

Dribbler,

It is very unusual to see a crack appear so quickly as a result of poor design, it is possible that it may be caused by the sand in the mix or the batch being unsuitable for the job. It is just possible you may have a double problem one being the finish and the other the batching plant.

However that is just a maybe, around here some of the professionals throw hessian on the job to stop the pitting and damage if it looks like rain. In any case if you concretor continues to be a problem perhaps you could pay one of his opposition to give you his opinion on what should be done to fix it. As for the crack if it more than just surface, and my bet is that it goes right through. Then it is cut, remove replace.

John

[Tools]

I post my vote for pull it up and replace it.The colour,finish and cracks are just poor workmanship.

Tools

[Dribbler]

perhaps you could pay one of his opposition to give you his opinion on what should be done to fix it.

Hi John,

Thanks for your reply. I actually have a gent coming out to have a look today to quote me on a correct repair job. He will also tell me if the concrete needs cutting etc.

[Dribbler]

I post my vote for pull it up and replace it.The colour,finish and cracks are just poor workmanship.

Tools

I agree.

Cheers.

[dazzler]

Dazzler,

I'm trying to work out where the aggressive part is. One does not have to be a brain surgeon to work out what he wants to do is simply not what I have paid for. Is it to much for a customer to ask for what he/she has paid for? Believe me I have not shown the slightest bit of anger or aggression towards the concreter. Don’t mix up annoyed and disappointed with aggressive.....preparing to take matters further if need be is smart not aggressive. Might I add that letting him put colour in the sealer would only land me in a bigger mess if later the drive should have to be re-surfaced as the sealer would have to be cleaned off, so its very important that its fixed the correct way and not a quick fix from the beginning....We all know that quick fixes can lead to bigger problems later. Oh and about telling you to get stuffed.....well only an aggressive person would do that.
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Cheers.<O></O>

Hey Dribbler

Wrong choice of word aggressive.(meant as quick to act without allowing enough time to respond)....sorry....what I was trying to say was have a relaxed and patient approach, give him time to respond remembering that he would probably have other jobs/concerns to consider. This is something that I have learned in my current job.....20 things on the go and its often the more troublesome ones that get pushed a bit down the list, but done they will be.

By asking for the refund is being aggressive, theres that word again, as it puts you both in a bind. One of you is gonna get angry. You cause you dont get it, him if he gives it.

It would be much easier for me to say;

Yeah go get him. he stuffed it, tell im to fix it or else....yeah, just fix it, rip it up ya ****.

But in the end there are a number of ways of skinning the cat, mine is an alternative.

cheers

dazzler

PS. Best of luck with achieving a good outcome!

[Dribbler]

Hey Dribbler

Wrong choice of word aggressive.(meant as quick to act without allowing enough time to respond)....sorry....what I was trying to say was have a relaxed and patient approach, give him time to respond remembering that he would probably have other jobs/concerns to consider. This is something that I have learned in my current job.....20 things on the go and its often the more troublesome ones that get pushed a bit down the list, but done they will be.

By asking for the refund is being aggressive, theres that word again, as it puts you both in a bind. One of you is gonna get angry. You cause you dont get it, him if he gives it.

It would be much easier for me to say;

Yeah go get him. he stuffed it, tell im to fix it or else....yeah, just fix it, rip it up ya ****.

But in the end there are a number of ways of skinning the cat, mine is an alternative.

cheers

dazzler

PS. Best of luck with achieving a good outcome!

Hi Dazzler,

Don’t be so hasty is what you mean. I know exactly what you are saying and I was hasty in asking for some money. It might have been a bad thing for me if he agreed because those cracks concern me not to mention I have also noticed from the edge that the rio (steel) is on the ground.... yep looks like he didn’t lift it.<O

I have a building inspector coming out today to write me up a report on the structural state of the concrete and if any or all needs to be removed or not. I will then calmly discuss what the inspector’s opinion is with the concreter and go from there. <O
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Thanks for your wishes.


Cheers.

PS. GO THE MIGHTY PIES.........and MELBOURNE VICTORY <O</O