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  1. #16
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    I can smack a hole through a besser block with my Estwing with not much effort, I guarantee you won't do the same with the plastic jobbie. I understand the theory behind the metal points and the light weight for safety (and cheap construction) but my feeble memory of high school physics tells me you need a combination of speed and mass vs impact surface area to make it work. Ie a tap from a sledge hammer = a big swing from an estwing = a toy hammer fired from a cannon. It probably would work eventually, but like I said, I wouldn't be betting my life on it.

    Mick
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    when i got my old VN commodore broken into, the crook just used an old car battery, worked really well to , completely shattered to bits making a lovely easy and safe way for him/her to enter the car and make a mess...


    next car i'll probably go back to basics though, wind up windows, manual G-box...the less technical stuff the less problems...
    Hurry, slowly

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    Many years ago when I was in the SES we used to use the spring loaded centre punches to shatter the side windows then juts push the glass out.
    I guess it proved that you don't have to apply a great deal of force to a small point to break the window, so the emergency hammer thingos would probably work fine.
    It's better to be thought of as a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker View Post
    I think a manual method of winding the window should be mandatory. I refused to buy a car with power windows, since, if your car falls into water, you can't escape. The power windows won't work and you can't open the door because of the water pressure.

    Rocker
    So where do you find water deep enough? You could park the car in my dam at the moment and still be able to breathe.
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    I didn't mention in the previous post that I also was very sus as to whether the safety hammer works - I also tried it out - the result was that on side window glass it took very little effort to shatter it completely only 2 hits - the first was probably too tentative - the second [in my usual lightning manner] didn't even hit in the same place but did the job fine - glass everywhere in confetti size - just like the old windscreens. I also tried it out on a laminated screen at the windscreen repair place - no joy there except for a star, hole and many cracks as it only went through the first layer.
    So, not for windscreens but excellent for side windows or those made of "safety glass" - handle size or mass does not appear to be an issue.
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    Okay, I sit corrected, but my ute has manual windows and I carry two estrwings (in the toolbox in the back) and an old axe handle behind the seat.

    Mick
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    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

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    As La Heurta said pull out the door rocker switch diasemble it clean the the contacts with DNA ask any taxi owner who has an Au, cleaning these switches is almost a cottage industry

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    Rocker your power window should work under water... they're usually water proofed, they do live in a car door after all! And DC still works under water.

    And to top it off you can open your doors once the car is full of water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry72 View Post
    Rocker your power window should work under water... they're usually water proofed, they do live in a car door after all! And DC still works under water.

    And to top it off you can open your doors once the car is full of water.
    Harry,

    You may be right that the power window would still work under water; but I would not like to bet my life on it.

    But you could not open the doors until the car was completely full of water, by which time you would have drowned.

    Rocker

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    I watched a show from the US about people in real life dramas, and they recommended carrying in your car a spring loaded center punch to break the window!? Haven't tried it myself but they demonstrated it and after a couple of clicks the window smashed.
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    Anyone with and EBish ford who has problems might find the switch has a crack in the track near the solder joint. I pulled mine apart resoldered it and has been fine ever since. The crack is under the switch so unsolder it first then resolder it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman Mick View Post
    Maybe, but I've smashed a few windows down at the local tip and had besser blocks bounce off, pieces of cane train track deflect and even steel brake drums not work on the first attempt.
    Mick

    So, you're not flat out all the time then, Mick? Put a bit of time aside for some recreational destruction?

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    Keith,
    nothing like a bit of recreational destruction to relieve the stresses of the day.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

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    Rocker if you ever want to purchase a new car your going to find it real difficult to find one without power windows, and I agree they would not work under water most that I have seen don't even have proper dust protection

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