Can you get stain sprays in little cans ?

[la Huerta]

just thought i's through my bit in...

i use vandyke crystals for staining and it gives a nice dark walnut sort of colour, much like what you see on antiques, you disolve it in water plus if you make a boo boo it's easy to wipe off and do again, and you can get it as dark as you like in one brushed coat, it does not go muddy like colourwood but gives a beautifull rich transparent colour ...then just clear coat it with spray cans..

as for your question...i'm pretty sure you can get spray stain/laquer , go to bunnings and have a look...

La H

[JDarvall]

Thanks for the replys and advice...... took all on board.

fear I may have made a mess of them already.....about a 1/3 of them seem to have some uneven stain.....hoping this will become less noticeable with more coats.....as it gets darker. Fear sanding back will just make them worse.

I like that nail and dipping ideas . so you mean, take the nail through the rack, and then into the back of the sheild, say 1/4" (not all the way through the sheild),,,,,,,,ok, since the back of the sheilds the unglamourous side. ?

My only concern with dipping is waste. Just a small run of them. Only, 1Lt can of stain. Wouldn't a lot of it go to waste in that dipping trough ? ..

The plan for the racks I made up, was......I cut em trianglular shaped, so the sheilds sit on just a thin line of stock......and then latter anyway, maybe plane the backs clean bring back the timber, and cleaning up all the unsightly buildup on near the underside edges ( and my finger print marks on the back. )...then rub in with rag one coat into the back.....thats how the other sheilds looked. Heavily stained the good side....and on the back still very light. Pine.

I'll have to experiment I think. A few months before they wont them anyway. Where did you get your vandyke crystals la Huerta ?

Thanks

[la Huerta]

hey mate...

vandyke crystals from timbecon, i order from them all the time, very fast delivery

tried just about every stain on the market and this is the one i like best...

only thing i hav'nt tried is spraying tinted laquer, which from what i'v heard and seen is the best, but i'm yet to travel down that path...

La H

[RETIRED]

Thanks for the replys and advice...... took all on board.

fear I may have made a mess of them already.....about a 1/3 of them seem to have some uneven stain.....hoping this will become less noticeable with more coats.....as it gets darker. Fear sanding back will just make them worse.

I like that nail and dipping ideas . so you mean, take the nail through the rack, and then into the back of the sheild, say 1/4" (not all the way through the sheild),,,,,,,,ok, since the back of the sheilds the unglamourous side. ?
My only concern with dipping is waste. Just a small run of them. Only, 1Lt can of stain. Wouldn't a lot of it go to waste in that dipping trough ? ..

The plan for the racks I made up, was......I cut em trianglular shaped, so the sheilds sit on just a thin line of stock......and then latter anyway, maybe plane the backs clean bring back the timber, and cleaning up all the unsightly buildup on near the underside edges ( and my finger print marks on the back. )...then rub in with rag one coat into the back.....thats how the other sheilds looked. Heavily stained the good side....and on the back still very light. Pine.

I'll have to experiment I think. A few months before they wont them anyway. Where did you get your vandyke crystals la Huerta ?

Thanks

Drive the nail through scrap timber. Enough that the shield sits on three points.

[Harry72]

How far did you go in grades with sanding, if you want to stain a light coloured wood dark dont finish sand any more than 180grit!(oil stains are quickest for dark colours)
The higher you sand the less the stain has to bind into. I make crapiarta darker than mahogany in one coat, you need to use the finishing product to get a smooth finish sheen.(satin poly builds fastest then lacquer)

[JDarvall]

Ta Harry........I didn't know that about not finishing too much.

Good to know. Save on a bit of time too

So, which stain product do you use ? ......do you spray it on ?

[Harry72]

I been using oil based for most gear, mainly wattyl interior and Haymes simply wood.
No spray no point with oil based, brush it on use a rag to rub it into the grain then wipe off the excess with a clean rag.
The only prob with this type stain is your stuck with poly(that I know of?).
Are you darkening the edges in black?

[JDarvall]

Ta.....But when you rubed it into the grain and off again with a rag, do you find it takes too much off the darkness off ?....a lot of the stain ends up in the rag.....meaning more coats to get it as dark.

And no, I didn't darken the ends black....I noticed that on these professionally finished ones I've used as templates.......do you have to darken the sides first before applying the stain ? ....and what with.

Thanks mate.

[la Huerta]

yeh it's a bumer hey when most comes off on the rag...have had that problem a lot and so that's where the vandyke comes in, you don't rub it off, just keep brushing, i'll try and get a pic for you of the colour...


La H

[Harry72]

Yeah the rags end up with a lot of stain in them, after its rubbed off thats the darkest it will go... apply any more will only get it very slightly darker.(try adding some black?)
Are you stirring the stain every time you dip the brush, there is solids in dark oil stains, tap the rub rag on some white paper and you'll see it!
If you want it darker sand it again with a heavier grit, thats why you need to have a rough sanding because its what holds the stain.(holds the solids)
I never needed to go below 180... so its up to you.

I think the darkened edges are done by airbrush, cant really say as never done it, maybe some of the guys in the guitar forum may know?
I'd say the black is done after staining the main body it looks like its on top of the stain?, might be a risk of dragging the black into the brown.

[la Huerta]

black japan would be perfect for the sides.....

[JDarvall]

Thanks Harry.....so, coarser the final grit the deeper it penetrates.

No, I haven't been stiring all the time. Just once at the beginning. Better change that.

See what you mean with darkening the edges.....looks like an airbrush sort of thing from the sheild I have......But I would have thought you darken before not after.......but I don't know. Try that next time,,,,,,experiment with black japan, (thanks La Huerta) and those crystals.

Thanks guys. Much appreciate your advice.