New DSLR camera

[woodbe]

Probably, a lot of people who buy their first DSLR are so blown away by the improved quality of the images, and the ability to properly see what they are actually taking, they don't realise there is more to be had.

So D200 then, or D2Xs? Nice lens collection you have there, pity Nikon isn't forthcoming with a FF sensor camera (yet)

woodbe.

[Harry72]

"I'm sure there are P&S users who take better photos than DSLR users..."
That'll probably be me with the dslr!

[ian]

woodbe,
Probably a D80, which I'm told is the D200 electricals stuffed into a D70 body. What's making me blanche is the cost of the lenses. With the digital body I also want to get at least one of either the 12-24mm f4.G DX IF-ED or 18-200 f3.5 VR

ian

[Honest Gaza]

Indications from the US are that the Canon 400D (Rebel XTi) will sell for approx $899 US with the 18-55mm kit lens. This converts to approx $1210 AUS.

I haven't seen pricing in Australia as yet (apart from Teds), so if the $1499 is correct.....ouch !!!!

Why is it we pay so much more in Australia ?

[ian]

Indications from the US are that the Canon 400D (Rebel XTi) will sell for approx $899 US with the 18-55mm kit lens. This converts to approx $1210 AUS.

I haven't seen pricing in Australia as yet (apart from Teds), so if the $1499 is correct.....ouch !!!!

Why is it we pay so much more in Australia ?

two main reasons:

1) US prices are always ex tax and ours always plus tax, thus $1210 is really $1331 after GST (Ted's price is only +$168 above this). The comparison is further complicated by a retailer's preference to call pick price points just below whole hundreds or whole fifties eg $899 not $900, $1499 not $1500.

2) Australia is a very much smaller market which translates to higher margins, higher transport costs, lower turnover and hence higher stock holding costs, etc


ian

[Jack E]

I must be a lucky bugga then!
I have a Casio Exilim S-500 and an EOS 350D
I got the DSLR with the 18-55 and 75?-300, but then I bought an 18-200 Tamron so I wouldn't have to change lenses when taking every day photos.
I previously had a 28-200 sigma on a film EOS 3000 and found this to be enough, and the 200 on digital gives you much the same range as a 300 on film.
I am still looking to get a macro (65 Canon) and wide angle (10-20 Sigma).
The 28-200 Sigma is one of the rare lenses that won't fit Canon film and Digi.

If anybody wants the 18-55 or 75-300 for the Canon DSLR I am willing to part with them for the right price.

I also no longer want my EOS 3000 film SLR with the 28-55 canon lense and the 28-200 Sigma lense. If anybodyis interested in getting in to film SLR photography this would be an affordable set up.

Cheers, Jack

[Harry72]

two main reasons:

1) US prices are always ex tax and ours always plus tax, thus $1210 is really $1331 after GST (Ted's price is only +$168 above this). The comparison is further complicated by a retailer's preference to call pick price points just below whole hundreds or whole fifties eg $899 not $900, $1499 not $1500.

2) Australia is a very much smaller market which translates to higher margins, higher transport costs, lower turnover and hence higher stock holding costs, etc


ian

Adding to that it comes with a 75~300 zoom as well as the standard 18~55 lense

[dan_tom]

If you're thinking of getting a Nikon D200, put your order in now. We ordered ours in January and finally got it in June.... apparently there is a huge back order and they are struggling to meet supply.

Photocontinental is down the road from us here in Brisbane.

Cheers
Dan

[Studley 2436]

Harry rather than tell you to get a Nikon and be happy *LOL* Ford no Holden no Ford no Holden

I would recommend that you have a look at the lenses you are getting they are what are known as consumer level lenses check here and here to see something about them from the US supplier B&H. When they have apertures that vary between 4.5 and 5.6 you can be sure it is a cheaper level lens.

This lens 70-200 f4 L is more likely a good thing. Constant f4 throughout the range and it is an "L" which is the moniker they use for their pro lenses.

Anyway have fun with it.

Studley could have told you more if you were getting a Nikon

[Harry72]

Yeah your right mate... FORD FORD FORD!

Yep the lense's that come with it as a package are cheapys but the 75~300 only adds $150 to the base price.
I couldnt afford to get real nice lense's, later on if photography becomes an obsession like being a woody I'll spend!

[Studley 2436]

SO Harry you are going to chuck your taxi and get a BMW or something and toss the Canon and get a Nikon, just as soon as you get some money?

Studley

[Grunt]

Anothere vote for Nikon. I've got a D50. I looked at a 350D but it felt cheap (a bit like Al) in my hands.

I would wait for a bit and get a D80 and a 18-200 VR Nikkor lens.

The D200 is a professional camera. It's a full metal body with weather seals. This is why the beast is expensive. I've had a play with one and it is a damn fine camera.

In my opinion unless you are going to print at greater than A4 size then any more than 6MegaPixels is a waste of memory and disk space. A 6MP image will print A3 at 167dpi which is fine unless you put your nose against it.

Chris

[Studley 2436]

christopha I am talking Swahili again OK

There is a megapixel myth. It is not the most important thing by far. My own camera is 4 megapixel. Have blown up many prints to 20x30 inches with ease. It is far more important to have a good exposure so that when blown up you don't get burnt out areas or others that are blocked out through underexposure.

Of course the lens on the front is important. The quality of the light falling on the sensor is a direct function of the diameter of the lens. The bigger the lens the better the image, simple fact of physical science. Thats why a compact just won't match it with a DSLR the lenses on those things are tiny. Not lashing compacts though they are great for the purpose intended. The whole thing you have to ask yourself is the purpose designed for the same as my purpose in having a camera.

Studley

[Stuart]

If you're thinking of getting a Nikon D200, put your order in now. We ordered ours in January and finally got it in June.... apparently there is a huge back order and they are struggling to meet supply.

Photocontinental is down the road from us here in Brisbane.

Cheers
Dan

That's where I got my Minolta DSLR from (Dynax 7D) 12 months on, and I still LOVE that camera. Course it didn't hurt already having $5k or so of glass for it already.....

Also didn't hurt getting it for $1100 BELOW RRP!!!! :eek:

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[rockola]

Anothere vote for Nikon. I've got a D50.

I have a D50 as well. My previous camera was a Nikon Coolpix 990, lasted five years and about 15000 shots before I decided not to bother with the fiddly battery door. Thought about getting a Canon/Pentax/whatever but I was so happy with the CP990 that I decided to remain a Nikonite. 2500 shots later still happy with my choice.

I would wait for a bit and get a D80 and a 18-200 VR Nikkor lens.

The D80 sounds promising, but: I've sunk less than $1000 in the D50 with the cheapo 18-55 and 70-300 mm lenses. (Tax free rebate, 70-300 from HK, etc.) How much will the D80 retail for when it's finally available?