Neighbours

[Scally]

I thought the legal fraternity had all the trainee polititions.

My body corporate in Hornsby wouldn't even let me use power tools.

It sure is good to be out on Sydney, living in the country with good neighbours.

[stevek]

As an aside, I have accepted a job in Brisbane and will be moving back to Queensland in the near future. If you had a choice, would you rather work with Redland Shire Council or Brisbane City Council? I'm planning to move to either Manly or Wellington Point.

I've lived in both and dealt with both in the realm of planning disputes (I'm a town planning lawyer) and I would have to recommend Brisbane. Less political interference, less decisions from out of left field and better dispute resolution mechanisms.

[Wild Dingo]

I wonder if the price of submitting the application hasnt somthing to do with non compliance? from what Ive heard of the eastern states the shires charge an arm a leg and two gonads just to submit the plans for approval.

Neighbors can be the pits at times... when we moved here and I submitted the plans for my shed it cost $70 for approval and another 30 for the water athorities approval (dont ask me why they needed to approve a ruddy shed ) the sheds gone up and hello!! Ive a ranger here within a week asking if Id got shire approval as there had been a complaint that I was erecting a substantial shed on the property (when has a 6x9mtr shed been considered substantial?) so I showed him the paperwork and he went away happy only to return a few days later to say the same neighbor (I only have one neighbor as Im semi rural) had complained about the humpyhoochy out the back blocking her view... I explained that I had no idea what approval the previous owner had or didnt have for the humpy and that he was in a better position than I was to check that out he did and the previous owner had got the right permits... 9 years ago when he stuck it up! Which the neighbor saw him do then but said nothing at the time... anyway I was out moving the dirt for the levee bank to keep the creek at bay last weekend and guess what? yep same neighbor rang the shire demanding action be taken over the person using a tractor (front end loader actually ) on the weekend and that the caravan at the side of the house was interupting her view... I explained the situation re the creek flood levee bank and that I didnt start the loader till after 9am and knocked of by 4pm each day I operated it no problems says he and then went to ask about the caravan blocking the neighbors veiw we walked to the caravan and I asked him what view was she talking about? he agreed that the only view she had if the caravan wasnt there is the veiw of our house! no problem

What a bloody waste of ratepayers money the rangers time and mine let alone hers! Apparently she was very upset and complained bitterly at the shire meeting that was held the week after the flood that evacuated my family and cost us almost all our possessions last year... complained about the noise for gods sake! yet the last owner of the property ran semi trailers from here at all hours!

Mind you it was good to see the engineer and the ranger going over her place on Friday after my call on Tuesday about non approved rooms and verandah... seems I was right too!! Since there was a pack of fellas in there on Saturday doin some serious banging and her swearing to all and sundry about bastard mongrel neighbors!! Seems the house is actually a 2 bed 1 bath house and not a 4 bed 2 bath house and there is supposed to be a verandah out the front not around the whole house... oh and their shed is now on the deck since apparently there was no shire approval for it or so said the ranger over a few beers tonight at my son in laws place nice bloke actually ... gawd sometimes unexpected rewards do happen!!

ahem... back on track Shane ol mate back on track... I also wonder why people dont do the right thing the first time round instead of cutting corners and getting done down the track... and I do wish that shires would be consistant rather than each having different friggin rules!! go from one town to the next and the rules of play change! :mad:

I do feel for you poor buggars over east and your exhorbitant fees for submitting plans to shires... sometimes I feel soooooo spoilt living in West Aus Best Aus

[Sturdee]

I do feel for you poor buggars over east and your exhorbitant fees for submitting plans to shires... sometimes I feel soooooo spoilt living in West Aus Best Aus

Shane, thought you like to know that today the Victorian government announced that they are amending the regulations so that householders will no longer be required to obtain permits from councils for putting up sheds, cubby houses and pergolas.

Finally some commonsense and just when I'm getting ready to put up another little shed.


Peter.

[Mulgabill]

Finally some commonsense and just when I'm getting ready to put up another little shed.
Peter.

Likewise (Garden Shed x 1, Pergola x 1)

[dazzler]

Hey Shane

Well done... bet thatll cost her a few dollars.

I had a mate who had a similar problem with neighbours so he set up a cassette player/hi fi thing and hooked it up to a timer so that it came on at 3am for 10 seconds just to wake em up

cheers

dazzler

[some_one]

It has taken the present govt 8 years to cut the red tape in permits. Did some one say it was EVICTION year?? read ELECTION

[seriph1]

can anyone provide a link to the announcement by the VIC govt. please?

thanks

[Sturdee]

can anyone provide a link to the announcement by the VIC govt. please?

thanks

I heard it yesterday on 3AW radio news service and again last night on channel 9 evening news service. Will probably be in todays papers.


Peter.

[Mulgabill]

Seriph1,
Try this link to the Herald-Sun
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...5E2862,00.html

[some_one]

thanks for the link mate but is there a specific govt. dep. link we could get to find out details or may a council link telling us the jump in the rates as they no longer will be able to milk the common person for some simple permits anymore...:eek:

[Mulgabill]

The issue regarding permits for building of pergolas, sheds etc becomes murky. It appears the the news releases do not tell the full story as it only relates to Planning Permits. Building permits are still required????:eek:

Refer to the following link; http://www.buildingcommission.com.au...asp?casid=3016
Then Media Release;
Government changes to planning permit system do not affect building permit requirements

[Driver]

Looks like the Victorian Govt is just lifting the requirement for planning permission on sheds etc. But leaving in place the requirement for a Building Permit.

That's the situation over here in WA. You don't need planning permission (usual caveats apply - the structure has to meet the Residential Design Codes etc) but you do need a Building Permit. This allows the council to check that the structure meets the Design Codes and it also allows them - at my local council - to charge $40 for the privilege. I'm not complaining. The process locally is relatively quick and, as Brother Midge said in an earlier post, it means that you've got all the necessary documentation in proper order if and when you sell.

I've just spent a bit of time this afternoon checking it all out on the relevant websites and downloading bloody yards of government regs and codes. Because - wait for it! - I'm finally getting around to building a proper workshop - yeeehaaaah! This means the family can regain the patio and yours truly will have somewhere to go and play without having to listen to complaints about bits of wood and "tool thingys" clogging up the "entertaining space".

[Auld Bassoon]

Good one Col! About ruddy time too