Continuation of SLR / Steyr discussion from Triton Board

[Shedhand]

"the L1A1 SLR"

Geez, that took me back a few years...

[spartan]

---well it was the first power tool I was taught to use....then they went and upgraded it to a plastic replacement....

[Stuart]

---well it was the first power tool I was taught to use....then they went and upgraded it to a plastic replacement....

True, but I've a soft spot for the Steyr - good engineering design, easy field stripping. Would have preferred accuracy beyond 300m, but that would have made it an unwieldy length.

[doug the slug]

True, but I've a soft spot for the Steyr - good engineering design, easy field stripping. Would have preferred accuracy beyond 300m, but that would have made it an unwieldy length.

Steyr - plastic rifle with tupperware lifetime guarantee. and its only 5.56mm. if someone hits you with a 7.62mm round nobody has to tell you to lie down

[spartan]

Steyr - plastic rifle with tupperware lifetime guarantee. and its only 5.56mm. if someone hits you with a 7.62mm round nobody has to tell you to lie down

Even more off topic....

Having made fun of the plastic fantastic, its is not that bad.....Just before I left the Army, I had the pleasure of serving with SFOR in Bosnia, working in a small town with a team of Royal Marines - all scotsmen - at anyrate other than the senior corporals and SNCO on the team the younger marines had never put a full magazine through the SA80 without a stoppage (misfeed, or gas stoppage). I found this amazing until I picked it up and it rattled....

The brits did have the advantage of having no stocking of F1 5.56mm ammunition left over from M16s like we did. They were able to go straight to SS109 ammunition - which has the same ballistic impact at ranges up to 300m.

[doug the slug]

Even more off topic....

Having made fun of the plastic fantastic, its is not that bad.....Just before I left the Army, I had the pleasure of serving with SFOR in Bosnia, working in a small town with a team of Royal Marines - all scotsmen - at anyrate other than the senior corporals and SNCO on the team the younger marines had never put a full magazine through the SA80 without a stoppage (misfeed, or gas stoppage). I found this amazing until I picked it up and it rattled....

The brits did have the advantage of having no stocking of F1 5.56mm ammunition left over from M16s like we did. They were able to go straight to SS109 ammunition - which has the same ballistic impact at ranges up to 300m.

yeah, i get what you are saying about the different ammo, but i got out just after the steyr was introduced and never did get to fire it with the new ammo. this may have influenced my opinion of the steyr, even though i qualified as a marksman on it as i did with the SLR before it and the GPMG M60, 9mm browning and M-16. despite what stuart said earlier, i found you could get reasonably acceptable accuracy out of the steyr out to about 500m even with the old ammo but still somehow i preferred the old SLR. anyway if the enemy get closer than 500m its time to put in a leave application

[black1]

"the L1A1 SLR"

Geez, that took me back a few years...

it thought it was a M1A1 SLR
only ever fired ten round through one in recruit school for the navy. didnt want to be a mullet!!!!

[spartan]

Nope most certainly it is the L1A1.

A point of curious note is that most of the 'M' weapons that have been used in Australia are of American origin, for example

M4, M16, M60.

Whilst European (British dervived, in the case of the SLR FN FAL) are Ls...

Such as the L1A1 or the L7 (wooden stock version of the Mag 58).


Finally, if you have the F series (everything is F1 this)....

But most notably the F88 Austeryr (different to the kiwi and Austrian version) and the F89 Minimi!

[Stuart]

yeah, i get what you are saying about the different ammo, but i got out just after the steyr was introduced and never did get to fire it with the new ammo. this may have influenced my opinion of the steyr, even though i qualified as a marksman on it as i did with the SLR before it and the GPMG M60, 9mm browning and M-16. despite what stuart said earlier, i found you could get reasonably acceptable accuracy out of the steyr out to about 500m even with the old ammo but still somehow i preferred the old SLR. anyway if the enemy get closer than 500m its time to put in a leave application

Granted all that, but remember I was using it in ship-borne situations, with only occasional need for shore ops.

[Stuart]

Sorry - decided it was better to move it here, as there are a number of military / ex-military type who are enjoying the discussion, so rather than kill it (sic), better discussed here in a non-woodworking forum.

[havenoideaatall]

I first used the L1A1 (SLR) or FN FAL 7.62mm at the age of 17.

Great weapon, some still swear by it. Bit long to be honest at what 1143mm..(?)

I then used the SA80 from the age of 18. Hated it, but it was good for carrying around and on the range...

The Brits should have gone for the Armalite. I hear the SA80 '2' is a much better weapon. The worst thing was the stoppage caused by a mag change on the Light Support Weapon - an SA80 with a long barrel and bi-ped.

Have

[Termite]

it thought it was a M1A1 SLR
only ever fired ten round through one in recruit school for the navy. didnt want to be a mullet!!!!

I'ts a bit hard to throw an M1A1 over your shoulder, they weigh about 70 ton, yes old ton. An M1A1 is an Abrahms Tank.

[Shedhand]

I'ts a bit hard to throw an M1A1 over your shoulder, they weigh about 70 ton, yes old ton. An M1A1 is an Abrahms Tank.

S'ok Termite. Black1 is a bit confused. A sandgroper supporting croweaters...

[Termite]

S'ok Termite. Black1 is a bit confused. A sandgroper supporting croweaters...

That'll do it to you every time.

[havenoideaatall]

On the other hand, a MA-1 is a nylon synthetic flying jacket.