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14th April 2006, 06:13 PM #16Registered
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Originally Posted by echnidna
Al :eek:
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14th April 2006, 08:08 PM #17Originally Posted by ozwinner
You mean, "honey come into the bathroom, I had a real stiff in there the other day."Boring signature time again!
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14th April 2006, 08:10 PM #18Deceased
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IMO this is not a subject to joke about.
Originally Posted by Groggy
Originally Posted by goat
No BS but normal common sense.:mad:
What happened is quite possible as injecting yourself with insulin when not needed will cause a diabetic coma and can kill you. He probably thought that he found a new supply for his junk habit not realising it was insulin that he was injecting.
IMO this is not a subject to joke about, the life of a diabetic is extremely difficult. Managing the insulin needs of your body, which is never the same day to day notwithstanding that you may eat the same and do the same activities, with injecting it rather than have your body do it naturally is not funny.
Especially with the consequence that if it goes wrong you either become hyper (tired and listless which can go to a coma) or go into a diabetic coma. A number of times we have had to administer an injection for her to get out of a coma or take her to hospital for emergency treatment. Not a joking matter.:mad:
Peter.
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14th April 2006, 10:40 PM #19Originally Posted by ozwinner
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14th April 2006, 11:54 PM #20Originally Posted by Sturdee
But as someone who has suffered the loss of a relative through drug crime, I really don't have much sympathy for the deceased.
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15th April 2006, 09:10 AM #21Registered
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Originally Posted by graemet
Maybe I could transport them to England?
Al
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15th April 2006, 09:59 AM #22Deceased
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Why I am so touchy about this subject.
Originally Posted by Groggy
Like you I have no sympathy for the deceased, he got his just deserts, but there appeared to be implied criticism of the real victim in this story namely the diabetic householder who found the body in his house.
He, and his family, is already suffering a lifetime sentence of diabetes. It is indeed a life sentence as once you become an insulin diabetic you have it for life. There is no cure yet, only a way of managing the condition.
This management involves, in my wife's case, DAILY INSULIN INJECTIONS AT LEAST SEVEN TIMES and AT LEAST FIFTEEN TIMES A FINGER PRICK to obtain a drop of blood to test her blood sugar levels.
A normal day begins before breakfast with a blood sugar test, then calculate the carbo hydrates in her breakfast and factor in her current BSL and proposed activity and calculate the first insulin injection. If this is done correctly she lives like a non sufferer for about 2 hours when at morning tea time that is repeated. And again at lunch time, afternoon tea, dinner, supper and before bedtime.
If she miscalculates she will either get hyper, which has long term disastrous effects, or a hypo where she may pass out. This goes on day in day out with no let up for feastdays or holidays.
The family has to live with her dietary needs and the regulated lifestyle her treatment demands and learn how to step in when needed. My children from prep stage had to learn what to do if my wife became ill and there have been occasions when they had to administer a glucodin injection when they came home from school.
And then there are the times when she had to go to hospital for emergency treatment, the last was a week before Dougs and Jules Meet and Greet when suddenly that event looked like being thrown into turmoil, or the long terms effects of the desease. Like 2 years ago four eye operations ( 3 in one eye and 1 in the other ) to restore her eyesight with the possibility that if it went wrong she would permanent lose sight.
That is the reality of diabetes and there is no cure in sight, just the management which is painful to see on a daily basis. Most don't realise this as when you see a diabetic they are normal when they are managing their condition. The sad thing is that the decease is on the increase.
So I can fully relate to the householder when he found the criminal dead in his house, he now in addition to his diabetic life sentence has to cope with that as well. Definitely not a subject to joke about.
As we do the same, leave her meds including insulin pens (syringes fully loaded with insulin) on the kitchen table as she uses spare ones when she goes out, the same could happen to us if some junkie broke into our house. Not a joking matter.
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15th April 2006, 10:07 AM #23
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15th April 2006, 10:15 AM #24Deceased
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Thanks Greg,
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15th April 2006, 10:44 AM #25
Sturdee, I can undersstand where you are coming from. My sister is in the same boat as your wife. All of my family have undergone training and education on what to do in case.
In regards to the meds being left out. I am severely allergic to bee stings. It's one of the reasons that I am studying to get out of my current occupation (making beekeeping equipment). I have 5 Automatic Adrenalin injectors. 1 in each of the two cars, 2 at work, one in the shed and one next to the key rack in the kitchen. I've done this so if I need one the chance is really high that I can get one very quickly. I know from experience that I have roughly 60 seconds to get one before I can't move.
It is not a nice way to live. (says me sitting inside while SWMBO weeds the garden cause there a bees in the flowers)Have a nice day - Cheers
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