Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 25 of 25
  1. #16
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    .
    Posts
    4,816

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by echnidna
    Wouldn'n worry me at all Al.
    A stiff is just dead meat!
    .
    Not the thing tell your new bride on wedding night.

    Al :eek:

  2. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Over there a bit
    Age
    17
    Posts
    503

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ozwinner
    Not the thing tell your new bride on wedding night.

    Al :eek:

    You mean, "honey come into the bathroom, I had a real stiff in there the other day."
    Boring signature time again!

  3. #18
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    ...
    Posts
    1,460

    Angry IMO this is not a subject to joke about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy
    Clever leaving the medication in plain sight, wasn't it?

    (in an ironical sense that is)
    As my wife is an insulin dependant diabetic we, like most people suffering from that awful illnes, leave the current lot of insulin pens out on the kitchen table as well as her other stuff that she needs. Often quick access to her meds is the difference between staying well and passing out.

    Quote Originally Posted by goat
    makes you wonder why a diabetic would go away for a few days with out his life saving medication ? BS i think
    Every diabetic that properly manages their condition has more than one lot of meds. My wife has one set at home, another set (including spare meter etc) in her handbag for when she goes out and a third set in my car just in case.

    No BS but normal common sense.:mad:

    What happened is quite possible as injecting yourself with insulin when not needed will cause a diabetic coma and can kill you. He probably thought that he found a new supply for his junk habit not realising it was insulin that he was injecting.

    IMO this is not a subject to joke about, the life of a diabetic is extremely difficult. Managing the insulin needs of your body, which is never the same day to day notwithstanding that you may eat the same and do the same activities, with injecting it rather than have your body do it naturally is not funny.

    Especially with the consequence that if it goes wrong you either become hyper (tired and listless which can go to a coma) or go into a diabetic coma. A number of times we have had to administer an injection for her to get out of a coma or take her to hospital for emergency treatment. Not a joking matter.:mad:


    Peter.

  4. #19
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Glenhaven, NSW
    Age
    82
    Posts
    80

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ozwinner

    Orrwwh poor love never got a hug off his mummy when little.
    OR
    He was molested by a priest as a child.
    OR
    He cant help being a loser.
    Or
    Its not his fault.


    Al
    I didn't know you were a magistrate, Al.

  5. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    4,239

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee
    As my wife is an insulin dependant diabetic we, like most people suffering from that awful illnes, leave the current lot of insulin pens out on the kitchen table as well as her other stuff that she needs. Often quick access to her meds is the difference between staying well and passing out.
    Peter, my comment was relating to the irony of the medication serving more than it's intended purpose. Dark humored perhaps but certainly not intended as a comment on the owners or their illness.

    But as someone who has suffered the loss of a relative through drug crime, I really don't have much sympathy for the deceased.

  6. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    .
    Posts
    4,816

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by graemet
    I didn't know you were a magistrate, Al.
    Id be no good as a Magistrate, they would have to build more jails.
    Maybe I could transport them to England?

    Al

  7. #22
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    ...
    Posts
    1,460

    Default Why I am so touchy about this subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy
    Peter, my comment was relating to the irony of the medication serving more than it's intended purpose. Dark humored perhaps but certainly not intended as a comment on the owners or their illness.

    But as someone who has suffered the loss of a relative through drug crime, I really don't have much sympathy for the deceased.
    Groggy, I know it is not personal and more out of ignorance of how diabetes affects people but I failed to appreciate the dark humour or the irony. Maybe because I have lived for nearly 30 years with the effects of that dammed illness and as such I am rather touchy about the subject.

    Like you I have no sympathy for the deceased, he got his just deserts, but there appeared to be implied criticism of the real victim in this story namely the diabetic householder who found the body in his house.

    He, and his family, is already suffering a lifetime sentence of diabetes. It is indeed a life sentence as once you become an insulin diabetic you have it for life. There is no cure yet, only a way of managing the condition.

    This management involves, in my wife's case, DAILY INSULIN INJECTIONS AT LEAST SEVEN TIMES and AT LEAST FIFTEEN TIMES A FINGER PRICK to obtain a drop of blood to test her blood sugar levels.

    A normal day begins before breakfast with a blood sugar test, then calculate the carbo hydrates in her breakfast and factor in her current BSL and proposed activity and calculate the first insulin injection. If this is done correctly she lives like a non sufferer for about 2 hours when at morning tea time that is repeated. And again at lunch time, afternoon tea, dinner, supper and before bedtime.

    If she miscalculates she will either get hyper, which has long term disastrous effects, or a hypo where she may pass out. This goes on day in day out with no let up for feastdays or holidays.

    The family has to live with her dietary needs and the regulated lifestyle her treatment demands and learn how to step in when needed. My children from prep stage had to learn what to do if my wife became ill and there have been occasions when they had to administer a glucodin injection when they came home from school.

    And then there are the times when she had to go to hospital for emergency treatment, the last was a week before Dougs and Jules Meet and Greet when suddenly that event looked like being thrown into turmoil, or the long terms effects of the desease. Like 2 years ago four eye operations ( 3 in one eye and 1 in the other ) to restore her eyesight with the possibility that if it went wrong she would permanent lose sight.

    That is the reality of diabetes and there is no cure in sight, just the management which is painful to see on a daily basis. Most don't realise this as when you see a diabetic they are normal when they are managing their condition. The sad thing is that the decease is on the increase.

    So I can fully relate to the householder when he found the criminal dead in his house, he now in addition to his diabetic life sentence has to cope with that as well. Definitely not a subject to joke about.

    As we do the same, leave her meds including insulin pens (syringes fully loaded with insulin) on the kitchen table as she uses spare ones when she goes out, the same could happen to us if some junkie broke into our house. Not a joking matter.


    Peter.

  8. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    4,239

    Default

    Peter, I apologise unreservedly for any offence I may have caused.

    best regards.

  9. #24
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    ...
    Posts
    1,460

    Default

    Thanks Greg,

    Peter.

  10. #25
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Warwick, QLD
    Age
    45
    Posts
    1,175

    Default

    Sturdee, I can undersstand where you are coming from. My sister is in the same boat as your wife. All of my family have undergone training and education on what to do in case.

    In regards to the meds being left out. I am severely allergic to bee stings. It's one of the reasons that I am studying to get out of my current occupation (making beekeeping equipment). I have 5 Automatic Adrenalin injectors. 1 in each of the two cars, 2 at work, one in the shed and one next to the key rack in the kitchen. I've done this so if I need one the chance is really high that I can get one very quickly. I know from experience that I have roughly 60 seconds to get one before I can't move.
    It is not a nice way to live. (says me sitting inside while SWMBO weeds the garden cause there a bees in the flowers)
    Have a nice day - Cheers

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •