Tas Oak Flooring on Existing Slab - Help Needed!!!

[Raynnick2121]

Hello,

I am new here, found your site via Google. I have been searching on here for a while for some info on a new Tas Oak Floor i want to install on an existing concrete slab. I want to use 85x12mm Tounge & Groove Flooring. I have been speaking with a few apparent professionals and they have been saying i should seal the slab and then use Bostic type Glue for the floor. I have a few questions, if anyone can help that would be appreciated.

1 - What sort of sealer should i use?? I understand it is a roll-on type like painting a floor.

2 - What is the best glue to use??

3 - If the slab is not completely flat how do i fix it?? Also what is an easy way to see how flat it is??

4 - I understand from the professionals that i should use light guage concrete nails every 450 mm for each floorboard and remove them the next day. Is this correct??

Any other info i need would be more than appreciated. (email address is [email protected])

Thanks

Nick Rayner
(New Norfolk, TASMANIA)

[glock40sw]

Hello,

1 - What sort of sealer should i use?? I understand it is a roll-on type like painting a floor.

Bostik make their own sealer that compliments their glue. Don't be talked into using cheap crap by hardware store salespeople. They are not the ones who have to live with a rooted floor.

2 - What is the best glue to use??)

Bostik Ultraset. Forget cheap stuff like liquid nails or maxbond. Remember, you get what you pay for.

3 - If the slab is not completely flat how do i fix it?? Also what is an easy way to see how flat it is??

Use a leveling compound or have the slab ground to be + or - 3mm over a 1500mm area.

4 - I understand from the professionals that i should use light guage concrete nails every 450 mm for each floorboard and remove them the next day. Is this correct??

Not quite.

If I was you, I'd get a pro to lay it. You could do it yourself and stuff it up and then need to buy more Tas Oak ( Am I the only one that thinks Tas Oak is Crap for flooring?)

Direct stick is NOT for the DIYer. It is NOT even for some Pros.

Any other info i need would be more than appreciated. (email address is [email protected])

Thanks

Nick Rayner
(New Norfolk, TASMANIA)

See www.timberqueensland.com.au

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor.
Grafton

[Carpenter]

Hi Nick, try this for some reading. http://www.timber.net.au/bulletin.htm

[glock40sw]

If I was doing the job.
I'd fix 12mm ply to the slab with splitz anchors over a .2mm poly sheet moisture membrane with a 200mm overlap. Tape the joins with Good quality duct tape. Then ultraset and secret nail to the ply.

Remember, I would be using REAL hardwood flooring. Blackbutt or Spotted Gum (G'day Bruce) or Gey Ironbark. Not Tassie Crap Oak.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton

[Raynnick2121]

Thanks everyone for your comments.

I have a few more questions/comments.

I am going to use the Bostik Glue & Sealer, i have decided on that!

I have a guy who has done quite a few of these floors and he will be doing it not me, thank god! I am not confident at all, although i will be there to help.

I don't like the idea of the ply on to the slab before the 12mm tas oak, raises the height too much... I think i will see how level the slab is, if it is ok, seal it, then i surpose i will have to leave it for a few days, they this guy will lay the flooring with my help/supervision, because i want it done properly.

Anyway Trevor, i have decided on Tas Oak FLooring as it is going to Match all the Tas Oak we have in our Kitchen, which is just being made (Or finished early next week), so i really have no choice. I am going Standard Grade 85x12mm. It is costing me $500 for the timber (Floor arear is 16m2). Timber is kiln dried to 10% so they say.......

Trevor, when you say tape the joins? Joins in the ply??

It is getting layed next Thursday!

Thanks again

Nick

[glock40sw]

G'day Nick.
No. The joins get taped on the Poly membrane under the ply.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor.
Grafton

[Raynnick2121]

Do you think if i don't use the ply that it will still be OK????

Nick

[glock40sw]

As I said before..If it were MY floor............

[glock40sw]

Remember... I manufacture Hardwood timber flooring for a living.
I've seen all sorts of good and bad floor installations.

Now, having said that.........If it were my floor.......

Guess what I would do...

Hooroo

[Raynnick2121]

I have sealed the slab and purchased the timber. Now all i have to do is wait until Thursday until it is laid. I will take some photos for you guys to have a look at before and after......

Thanks Guys.........

Nick Rayner
(New Norfolk, Tasmania)

[glock40sw]

G'day Nick.
Mate piccies would be great.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor.
Grafton

[Raynnick2121]

Ok here they are. All complete except the final finishing touches and of course sanding and polishing!

Seemed ok to do, took a whole day from 7:30am to 5ish to lay 16 Square Metres of Tas Oak Flooring. Here is what it has cost me to date:

Timber - $500
Bostick Glue & Sealer - $540
Labour - $300 Ish (Not quite sure yet!)

That doesn't include sanding and polising as this comes after when the Kitchen has been installed ! Next Tuesday the Kitchen goes in!

Anyway have a look at the photos..............

Thanks heaps for all help guys!

Nick Rayner
New Norfolk, Tasmania

[glock40sw]

G'day Nick.
Mate, Looking Good.
Even if it is Tassie Crap Oak.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton

[ThePope]

Even if it is Tassie Crap Oak.

I'm beginning to think mum's wooden spoon must have been make from it, you're always bagging it

I myself don't mind it at all...

[Raynnick2121]

I'm beginning to think mum's wooden spoon must have been make from it, you're always bagging it

I myself don't mind it at all...

I don't mind it either! It definately is softer timber!

Looks good i think, it will look even better when the kitchen goes in on Tuesday! I will take some more happy snaps for you guys who don't like the Tassie Oak "Crap"!!

Seeya

Nick Rayner
New Norfolk, Tasmania