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    Thumbs up This might interest some.

    Gooday.

    Browsing around, I came across this article.

    Thought it might be of interest.
    http://www.woodshopnews.com/stories/finish/

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    Interesting to say the least ,puts a whole new meaning on putting a finish to the product.
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    Johnno

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    Angry

    Gets rid of about 10 of my excuses !

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    Wink

    This man is stepping on thin ice and is likely to encounter legal action as all these quotes are from Neils book aren't they?
    Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.

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    Thanks
    What do you or anyone else have to say about finishing, or not finishing both sides of table tops. I recently (ish) made a table and the fellow was a little disappointed that I finished it both sides as the wood had quite a distinctive aroma. It was 3m x 1m, I'm not sure if I would like to leave one side naked? Checkya. Rod

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    Gooday,

    I admit that I finish both sides of table tops (2on bottom, 3 on top)but it is for aesthetic reasons because I deliver tables unassembled and the owners see the base.

    I use relatively stable timber that has been stored at room temperature for 3 months so warping is not an issue.

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    Cool

    Iain

    Thanks for jumping to the defence of the book, but not a one of the quotes was from it.

    Bugger! That blows the legal action idea all to pieces.

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    Hi . I understand what your saying, but even old well seasoned wood will warp/cup if moisture exposure is different on both sides. But how much difference does a finish make? And I spose location makes a difference (humidity). Best way to find out is to try it I spose. Then again what about air cond and heating influences. Mmmm, think I'll keep finishing both sides for now. Checkya. Rod

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    Rod, Do a search on polishing tops and see what you come up with. There was a good discussion about the polishing of both sides a while ago and should be an interesting read for you...

    Cheers


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    Thanks Shane, interesting (and long) read. Rod

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    Question

    I remember that long discussion on finishing both sides. What ever happened to that table by marcus and where are the photos?
    Bye
    Shaun

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    I'll have to agree with:

    "Short term, this might be true if the furniture is moved to radically different humidity conditions. But long term, other factors, primarily ring structure and compression-set shrinkage, account for warping no matter which sides are finished."

    When the EMC goes up, (humidity adding moisture to the wood) the cupping will be toward the center of the tree. When EMC goes down, (low humidity drying the wood) cupping will be away from the center of the tree.

    The finish that you put on only slows the process; nothing stops it.

    Equally important it the joinery. Wood expands when it takes on moisture and contracts when it looses moisture. This is most noticeable across growth rings.

    You can seal a piece of green wood to the best of your ability and it will still dry and distort. It will just take longer. Turn a 3" mallet out of green wood seal it the best that you can. Measure the diameter two years down the road and it will differ by 1/8".

    You can't seal moisture in and you can't seal it out. You can only slow it down. Water vapor is a gas; moisture will go through even a water proof finish.

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