Forcing subbies to install tracking apps QLD

[The Spin Doctor]

I am truck driver and last Friday I was told I needed to install a sign in app in order to deliver a load to Woolworths warehouse. I didn’t even finish reading the terms before deciding there was no way I would install the app, apparently there is no other option in order to deliver to woolies.

I delivered the load elsewhere and it had to be reloaded and taken to the warehouse by another contractor.

There really needs to be some laws to protect people from these invasions into our personal information. I am fortunate I can afford to say no, quit my job if needed, unfortunately too many have little choice.

Cheers Andrew

I'm in a similar situation as you in that I can tell them to go pound sand and quit, and find a job tomorrow... But I'll play their game, for now, in that my old cheap phone with the app is only turned on to sign in and then shut off immediately after and thrown in the glove box.

I could play with them and hide it in the toilet for the entire day, day in and day out, and let them scratch their head over that...

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

If it's a walk-on site, just take in a lockable box and leave it near the entrance, break-room or whatever. Throw a natty old pair of gloves and the cheapo phone in that every day after you enter.

If asked why, "I only carry the tools I need. Not gonna risk the phone dropping out of my pocket while I'm..."

Best of all, if some mongrel nicks your box, well, when you report the theft (You call this a safe site? ) you can tell them it has a tracker in it.

[Mobyturns]

Interestingly enough the publisher has pulled the original sign in app from the play store and replaced it with a new app with a similar name... My guess is they needed to as the old app was getting absolutely hammered with 1 star reviews. The tracking is really invasive. This is what it says about its access on the phone. Attachment 522633



See hears the thing also. If they need people to sign into a job site, just provide a website where you enter your details... I might grab a really old phone that won't install the app and just play dumb and say it won't work.

Scary permissions! A wolf in sheep's clothing! Also, a nice backdoor for hackers I guess.

[Bushmiller]

I am thinking that George Orwell would have gone "appshit" if he had had access to this kind of information. He wrote 1984 in 1948. The Thought Police are becoming a reality. We don't have that type of phone security at our workplace, but we do have camera surveillance with sufficient clarity that causes you to think twice about picking your nose!

Regards
Paul

[springwater]

The IT wackers need to be brought into line. TheyÂ’re usually socially inept creatures unfortunately. WeÂ’re talking civil liberties here and deprivations of, not some computer game! Some decisions made by said self entitled people have huge privacy/social ramifications. Remember the libs tried to bring in an ID card? The MYCKY fiasco? How about ROBO debt? To name a few! IÂ’m sure youÂ’ve tried to sort something out with Telstra, apparently a communications company, that doesnÂ’t communicate but their billing system is $o slick and if you donÂ’t pay for some reason youÂ’re passed on to some mongrel debt collector because the computer says so. ItÂ’s time we charged $ for our time dealing with such lunatics! PhewÂ…better go for a walk now 😊

[GraemeCook]

The IT wackers need to be brought into line. TheyÂ’re usually socially inept creatures unfortunately. ...

Impossible!

I was at uni in the 1960's when the first computer (*) arrived on campus and the first IT courses started. To enrol in an IT major - no degrees then - you had to pass an "IT aptitude test" conducted by a university psychologist. In those days most programmers had PhD's and much programming was in binary and machine code which required obsessive attention to detail.

Years later I asked one of the psychologists what the "IT aptitude tests" were about. Her response: "Essentially, we were looking for people with obsessive personality disorder."

Now they self select.

(* Note: computer is singular; there was only one.)

[GraemeCook]

If there is a major disaster, will that app help find you?

[Jaded62]

Sadly for the conspiracy theorists.............these apps all about cost and nothing else. Apps like sinonsite save the builders money through a much reduced need to WHS staff, ensure the law is abided by, save the subbies money by not having to have a crew stand around for hours doing rubbish paperwork.

I don't like big brother, Google, FB and alike but do I care if the Chinese Govt (or even our own) know what I'm up to? No.,,, it'd be a boring read for someone.

That said, I did get my 5th microchip (aka COVID) shot on Thursday so maybe I'm not in charge of my facilties.

[GraemeCook]

A daughter of a good friend had an extremely nasty marriage bust up just after Christmas and she and her two toddlers finished up in a women's shelter for a few weeks. As they were being driven there, her counsellers removed the SIM card from her phone, so that it could not be used to trace her whereabouts - standard operating procedure, I am told. She quickly got a new SIM card.

Then. with her agreement, the old SIM was handed to some "active supporters" who happened to work in the airline industry. As it moved around the country it created false locations for anyone trying to locate the victim.

This is virtually the reverse of what is happening on building sites!

[jack620]

I clicked Thanks instead of Reply to the previous post. I don't see how swapping a SIM card prevents someone tracking you if you have tracking enabled on your phone. What it will do is stop the offender calling or sending harassing text messages. I also don't see how inserting the old SIM into someone else's phone allows them to track that phone's position. You can put your SIM card in my phone, but nobody except your mobile phone carrier is going to know where I am.

[GraemeCook]

I do not know the details Jack beyond what I was told. Basically, that somehow the location was related to the SIM, that the location of the shelter was protected and that the false trail was laid.