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18th December 2020, 09:00 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Shellac as a grain filler?
Has anyone had any success using shellac to fill the grain of open pored timber? if so, do you use a heavy mix, say a 3lb cut, or several light coats before sanding back to the surface?
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Dengy
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18th December 2020, 01:11 PM #2
It hasn’t worked too well for me by itself. I have pore filled using the pad with shellac, alcohol and pumice in the traditional way, this works but is time consuming, tiring and needs patience. I have also used AquaCoat, a filler used by luthiers, it works. I am about to try using hide glue, which will be cheaper. I sand to 800 or better before applying filler, allowing to dry then sanding back. Might need two or three coats.
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18th December 2020, 03:02 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for this reply, Swifty. Where do you get your Aqua Coat from?
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Dengy
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18th December 2020, 03:54 PM #4
It's clear so won't change the overall colour of the timber. Here's the link:
Online Store - Armstrong Lutherie
Also I learned pretty quick while practising french polishing that sanding sealers cannot be used as grain fillers at all, and shellac by itself sinks into the grain and doesn't really give a flat surface at all. I had a go at using Timbermate, it fills the pores very well, with the colour of the Timbermate being very obvious in the pores. I prefer the Aqua Coat because it is transparent. Yet to try out the hide glue method, but I am about to experiment with it on my current build. This subject is also covered by Neil (our UBeaut sponsor) in his Polishers Handbook, I recommend that book!
Cheers SwiftySwifty
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18th December 2020, 05:43 PM #5
+1 on Aquacoat
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19th December 2020, 12:55 AM #6
Yes.
No
No.
Coating with a brush and sanding wont do it . Unless you think that a lot of time putting shellac on only to sand it off and throw 90% of it away is a good way to spend some time and money.
I explained it in your thread here post 29.
Why oil French Polishing pad?
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19th December 2020, 07:13 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Constantia Organic Finishes have a product called Seedlac which is liquid shellac and oil based and when used with their pure pumice dry filler is very effective as a grain filler.
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