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Thread: Motor for Jessem Rout-R-Lift II
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29th July 2020, 09:24 AM #1Senior Member
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Motor for Jessem Rout-R-Lift II
Ive been wanting to make a new router table. I've got everything I need now except for an actual router or motor, since I came across a Jessem 02310 Rout-R-Lift II that takes Router motors 3-1/2 Inches in diameter. I do have a festool 1400 and an old Ryobi backup but neither of them will work in my lift since it takes a round body router.... I think I was planning on leaving the festool out of the table anyway for site work etc. So I've had a very basic look around for round body (usually fixed base) routers that are quite popular in the states but not so much here. On eBay and Gumtree there are a few round body fixed base routers around but they are usually pretty. weak in terms of horsies, around the 3/4 to 1hp and often trim routers. Ive seen some older Stanley ones that are 2hp but the one I see the most of is the Makita 3601B which is 1 1/2 horsepower and would probably be fine, the issue is the D handle and Im also can't get any information of the motor diameter. Does anyone out there have any experience with this or have any suggestions about what I should do!? Cheers Nicko
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29th July 2020, 11:54 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Nicko,
Have you considered a round body motor from Timbecon https://www.timbecon.com.au/sherwood...y-router-motor
or PWS (a forum sponsor) Router Motor woodworksupplies.com.au
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29th July 2020, 01:38 PM #3Senior Member
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Hey Homey, thanks for your input.
I have looked at those but I think they are too large. The information on the websites say the motors are 4 1/4 inches diameter where as the Rout-R-Lift II wants a 3 1/2 Inch diameter. There are a bunch of 3 1/2 Inch routers in the US market with 3 1/4 Hp motors too so if I get desperate I could go down the transformer path (since it will be dedicated to the table) but Im hoping ill be able to sort one out here
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29th July 2020, 07:09 PM #4
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29th July 2020, 07:24 PM #5
https://www.timbecon.com.au/sherwood...y-router-motor
Router Motor woodworksupplies.com.au
I think if a search is done on the forum its been talked of quite a bit about 2 years ago.
The market probably has more solutions now, but these are two Im familiar with.
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30th July 2020, 09:50 AM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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A CNC spindle motor should work? Most seem to be 80mm diameter. Eg
2.2KW Spindle Motor ER20 Water-cooled 24000rpm AC220V D80mm CNC Router Mill | eBay
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30th July 2020, 01:37 PM #7Senior Member
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30th July 2020, 01:48 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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A water cooled spindle is the quitest motor you can use in a RT bar none. I was astounded at how quite it is compared the a normal router and so is everyone who hears it. A word of warning, these motors are three phase and require a VFD for installation and speed control or all the ones I have had experience with are. Notice it says a max speed at 400hz but no descriptor on single or three phase for some reason. A set of collets can be bought and using the speed control it can be used as a spindle sander as well and you can put anything in it using the different size ER20 chucks.
Found this in the fine print so it is three phase which is a plus as far as control goes, way better than a router motor and at lower speeds the motor can hardly be heard at all.
Kindly Note :
1, Motorized spindle motors are matched with inverters, choosing inverters should be according to the current, voltage, and frequency of motorized spindle motorCHRIS
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30th July 2020, 02:07 PM #9Senior Member
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Hey Chris, thanks for that option I hadn't even considered that. Routers do sound pretty dang annoying to me anyway so that would be a big plus. I'm looking at importing a Bosch 1617 from the US. I saw one on eBay that was the motor only for $180 Aud + shipping but then I would need a transformer also. The advantage there for me is that I've had my eye on some other American jobbies that aren't available here, in which case the transformer could be used across a few items. A additionally I could have another good quality router (there is a plunge and fixed base available) should the need arise.
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30th July 2020, 02:14 PM #10Senior Member
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Also an advantage to the spindle motor is that it is an additional .75 horsepower. i.e 3Hp as opposed to the 2.25 in the Bosch. I don't have that much experience with routers, particularly in a table setting. Ive always been fine with my 2hp ones, but I'd like to use the router table for dovetailing (with the incra joinery system) and sliding dovetails in some larger pieces. Is the 2.25hp going to hold me back in peoples opinions?
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30th July 2020, 02:19 PM #11Senior Member
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Thanks woodpixel, I think the diameter on these ones are too large. Apologies to moderators but I started two threads simultaneously. One here and another in routers jigs. Is there anyway to amalgamate them?
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30th July 2020, 02:21 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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The only thing I would add is that in ordinary circumstances the spindle motor will have a far longer life than a router motor as in a CNC they cop huge punishment and outlast ordinary router motors by a long long way. I did a RT build using one in a woodworking scholl and it is still going and everyone who uses it raves about how quite it is. We built out own lift for about $100 and added a DRO to it with a screen for ease of use. There is a thread somewhere in the router forum started by me.
CHRIS
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30th July 2020, 03:06 PM #13Senior Member
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Ok Chris I will definately give that option some solid consideration. Which school did you do the build in, I see you aren't too far away
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30th July 2020, 03:14 PM #14GOLD MEMBER
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Illawarra Wood Working School in Woonona, if you want to have a look at it I cann arrange a time for you. I have a spindle here also going into a table if I ever get the time to finish it, if you want to have a look PM me.
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30th July 2020, 04:47 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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Further to this - an advantage is that with the VFD you get REALLY good speed control with no compromise to power (as happens with many dedicated routers that have a speed control dial). Including VFD, you will probably be better off than importing a US router & buying a transformer.
Also note if you do buy a US motor with transformer you will loose out further, due to their line frequency being about 20% higher than ours. (Motor will run 20% slower here & have 20% less power). To correct for that you need a frequency converter as well as a transformer. Now its getting pricey!
As I noted above, the 80mm diameter should fit the router lift.