Rob Streeper - a USA member here - got the C19 virus

[FenceFurniture]

The United States was caught completely flat-footed in this instance, a totally unprepared clown show.

Not sure why you'd say that Rob.

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[jmk89]

Just caught up with this thread.

Let me add my best wishes for a good recovery, Rob and Mrs Rob

[Fekit]

Hi rob, hopefully everything works out mate.

Back in January we speculated that we were suffering from the virus but mostly dismissed the possibility as unrealistic because at the time it was present only in China.

That is what I suspect happened here, although we had a milder strain of the virus, which was reported in Wuhan at the time. The symptoms were as described for a mild case and lasted for quite a few weeks. I'd like to note that I don't know anyone who hasn't had it. I would also like to note that I know of a family, first hand, who contracted a virus with exactly the symptoms of mildish Cov19, they all got tested. The results revealed an unknown upper respiratory tract viral infection, that was in mid January when Cov19 was largely a Chinese thing albeit we recorded our first on the 6th of January.

[Handyjack]

I heard DT say America was the envy of the world. Not sure why though? Perhaps because of more cases and deaths?

Thank you for the first hand in sight.

[FenceFurniture]

I heard DT say America was the envy of the world.

At face value, that statement is correct. Not sure what era he was referring to though.

[Fuzzie]

..... I'd like to note that I don't know anyone who hasn't had it. I would also like to note that I know of a family, first hand, who contracted a virus with exactly the symptoms of mildish Cov19, they all got tested. The results revealed an unknown upper respiratory tract viral infection, that was in mid January when Cov19 was largely a Chinese thing albeit we recorded our first on the 6th of January.

This fits in with the date of one of our early high profile cases. Tom Hanks arrived here in early March, and was diagnosed a couple of weeks later with Cov19. Just saying, coming from LA where it might have already been circulating widely is suspicious.

Get well and stay well all!

[rob streeper]

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I just came across this. The original is dated 5/4. Looks like things may get considerably worse.cdc-covid-projections.pdf

[FenceFurniture]

I haven't read this yet, but the headline is somewhat concerning:
Researchers find new coronavirus strain '''more contagious''', potentially impacting COVID-19 vaccine search - ABC News


Rob, I've been meaning to ask you about your exposure at the conference. You said there were people sneezing all around you at a function. How widespread was the sneezing - can you roughly estimate a number and within what distance proximity?

The reason I ask is because it seems a little unusual that so many people would be at the same stage of their infection at the same time. That would indicate that they all more or less got infected at the same time too. That would then raise the question of where they had all been to get infected at the same time, and also qury the incubation period.

[FenceFurniture]

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I just came across this. The original is dated 5/4. Looks like things may get considerably worse.cdc-covid-projections.pdf

Yes I saw that graph. There has been no explanation as to why the number of deaths in the USA is going to dramatically worsen to perhaps 3000 per day. All I've heard is the fact, not the reasoning. Do you have any clues?

[woodPixel]

You know, I often laugh and poke jest at the people of the USA - but this is getting serious and is no longer a joke.

The people of the USA need to wake up to themselves and take a strong and considered look at its leadership.

It is about to throw people over a cliff.


It doesn't take much imagination to think through the implications. Looking back in a generation and it would be clear that this could be the beginning of the end for them.

Does this empire end, not with a bang, but whimper?

[rob streeper]

Yes I saw that graph. There has been no explanation as to why the number of deaths in the USA is going to dramatically worsen to perhaps 3000 per day. All I've heard is the fact, not the reasoning. Do you have any clues?

Hi Brett,

The data at this point appear to show that a number of demographics have enhanced liability to death because of Sars2. Among them are the usual suspects of age, cardiovascular and respiratory disease sufferers of course but somewhat surprisingly it appears that mortality correlates strongly with BMI and, this being America, there is also a strong racial mortality bias disfavoring African Americans. Socioeconomic status also appears to increase morbidity and mortality. In the US we have something like 60-70% of the population falling into the overweight or obese ranges of BMI. Race, SES and BMI are also strongly correlated. The population of the southern states, especially those comprising the former Confederacy, has a very large population of people that have one or more of the demographic characteristics that are inversely correlated with survival of Covid-19. At the moment there is a large outbreak in the Four Corners area (Colorado, Utah, New Mexico and Arizona), an area with a large Native American population.

The ineluctable truth of this epidemic is that those closer to the bottom of the various social hierarchies are suffering disproportionately and will in the end likely bear the majority of the brunt of the scourge. This situation is disgusting.

[rob streeper]

The people of the USA need to wake up to themselves and take a strong and considered look at its leadership.

In my experience most don't have the education and basic understanding of how society works to be able to make such a decision. All of the partners (including SWMBO but excepting me) in our current business enterprise are first generation immigrants and most of them have expressed surprise at how poor the educational system is here. The international educational attainment rankings don't lie.

The top tier educational institutions are world class, the rest (the majority) are not.

[Bushmiller]

Rob, I've been meaning to ask you about your exposure at the conference. You said there were people sneezing all around you at a function. How widespread was the sneezing - can you roughly estimate a number and within what distance proximity?

Whilst I am mindful that symptoms and indeed lack of symptoms are not fully understood with this virus, I had not thought that sneezing was a prime indicator. Coughing (dry cough) certainly is one.

Regards
Paul

[rob streeper]

The sneezing wasn't a chorus but there was quite a bit going on and the venues were packed shoulder to shoulder, a couple of hundred people present at each. At the time SF was having a flu outbreak and I remember thinking "Great, now I'm going to get the flu". Unfortunately it was much worse. Among the sneezers the younger people (<35 y.o.) were notable for their failure to cover their mouths while sneezing or coughing. Same on the plane out there, young slobs snotting over everything.

[Bushmiller]

Among the sneezers the younger people (<35 y.o.) were notable for their failure to cover their mouths while sneezing or coughing. Same on the plane out there, young slobs snotting over everything.

Yuk!

Regards
Paul