For Rich -- how are you surviving the state wide "lockdown"

[ian]

Hi Rich

wondering how you are surviving the State-wide lock-down "ordered" by your "overlord"?

I hope you are getting lots of shed time while you shelter in place.


look after yourself.

[rrich]

For once I'm doing what I'm told.
My son has advised to keep my BAC up. LOL.

It seems that the LA Metro area's biggest problem is arrivals at LAX and in the ports. And the statistics, oh the statistics. Yes, we have, at this minute, 32,000 cases and 400 deaths NATIONWIDE. But percentage wise of the population is minuscule. If there were 400 deaths in the North Dakota shale oil camps, it would a major disaster.

We're able to go out and get food and such. The stupidity of the hoarders is amazing. I'm willing to bet that some of them have a 10 year supply of Toilet Paper and they are still buying more. By mid summer I'll be shopping garage sales for Toilet Paper and buying it for a dime on the dollar. (That's ten cents on the dollar or a 90% discount.)

Our misinformation source has been on TV for the last couple of hours pontificating about how great he has been handling the problem. NOT!

The lock down for us old pharts (Both late 70s.) is difficult. We really don't cook anymore. We tend to buy prepared meals and food to go. So it puts a kink in our life style.

OMG. We only have 12 rolls of TP left! Does anybody know where I can buy some? LOL

Thanks for asking.

[BobL]

The lock down for us old pharts (Both late 70s.) is difficult. We really don't cook anymore. We tend to buy prepared meals and food to go. So it puts a kink in our life style.

We've already experienced lockdown for 6 weeks (broken ankle and SWMBO with Vertigo so neither of us can drive). We had relatives delivering groceries for a couple of weeks and then used online grocery shopping until it stopped being available last week but at least I can now drive. However falling my GPs advice were self isolating as much as possible

I drive SWMBO to the store and stay in the car while SWMBO does the shopping, she's also much better than I am at sanitising etc. About once a week we buy in prepared food but we both cook (SWMBO is an excellent cook - any style, chinese, Italian, japanese, baked goods [unfortunately can't have much of these]) so its no big deal if the takeaway services stops. We have two Vet appointments this week, one for one of the dogs and another for SWMBO's horse, so Im driving and staying in the car and SWMBO is dealing with the animals.

[ian]

We've already experienced lockdown for 6 weeks (broken ankle and SWMBO with Vertigo so neither of us can drive).

We have two Vet appointments this week, one for one of the dogs and another for SWMBO's horse, so I'm driving and staying in the car and SWMBO is dealing with the animals.

not being too picky, but is reshoeing SWMBO's horse an "essential" activity?

[BobL]

not being too picky, but is reshoeing SWMBO's horse an "essential" activity?

About as essential and as risky in terms of COVID19 as me taking SWMBO to the bottle shop to buy Gin.
Anyway the horse is not being reshoed, its special orthotic shoes are being removed for the duration.

[DomAU]

Sorry, miss-read the title and thought we were discussing local state 'lockdowns'.

[Tonyz]

I head off tomorrow on 1600K round trip to replenish my timber supplies. hopefully get this done by Thursday.
Wife has specific instructions, this is an essential trip and unless she gets a copy of my death certificate she is not to sell anything.
She smiled and said ..."yes dear, and how soon can I arrange your death?"

[woodPixel]

Tonyz, that's a big trip. Are you sure it's wise?

It looks like TSHTF and borders are locked down.

The fuzz might think poorly of your timing.....

[rrich]

OK. No comments are really necessary but this is really a "Holy Bat Poop" moment. And no, you can't make things like this up.

Idiot child actually said this today:
"We are having people die that have never died before."

Everyone has my permission to have three shots of the whisky of their choice.

[woodPixel]

Idiot child actually said this today:
"We are having people die that have never died before."

The child is profound.

There is this Very Good Crack at bending the rules: https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...e-appeal-iowa/

[ian]

The child is profound.

There is this Very Good Crack at bending the rules: https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...e-appeal-iowa/

Hi Evan
That Washington Post article appears to be behind a firewall.

Can you post a summary?

[woodPixel]

Hi Evan
That Washington Post article appears to be behind a firewall.

Can you post a summary?

Apologies for that. I use Firefox with quite a few plugins that block... well, everything. I've found the internet so toxic that without adblockers, popup blockers, content blockers, paywalls and other infuriating BS that its become unusable..... so here is a copy-paste


An inmate claimed his life sentence ended when he died and was revived. Nice try, court rules.

Benjamin Schreiber is very much alive. But that hasn’t stopped him from arguing that he died four years ago.

After the convicted murderer collapsed in his prison cell in 2015, doctors restarted his heart five times. Recovering back at the Iowa State Penitentiary, Schreiber filed a novel legal appeal. Because he died before he was resuscitated, he had technically fulfilled his life sentence, he claimed.

Judges, however, aren’t buying it. Dying for a brief amount of time doesn’t amount to a get-out-of-jail-free card, the Iowa Court of Appeals ruled on Wednesday, saying that the 66-year-old will remain in prison until a medical examiner determines that he is dead for good.

“Schreiber is either alive, in which case he must remain in prison, or he is dead, in which case this appeal is moot,” Judge Amanda Potterfield wrote.

Schreiber has been behind bars since 1996, when he was charged in the death of John Dale Terry, a 39-year-old whose bludgeoned body was found near an abandoned trailer in rural Agency, Iowa. Prosecutors contended that Schreiber, then 43, had plotted with Terry’s girlfriend before clubbing the man to death with the wooden handle of a pickax. A jury found him guilty of first-degree murder, and in 1997 he was sentenced to life without parole.

Nearly two decades later, Schreiber was hit with severe septic poisoning. According to court records, he had developed kidney stones that were so large they “caused him to urinate internally.” On March 30, 2015, he fell unconscious and was rushed to the hospital, where doctors brought him back to life by administering epinephrine through an IV.

In April 2018, Schreiber filed for post-conviction relief, claiming that he was being held in prison illegally. His sentence was supposed to end with his death, he argued, which had taken place three years prior, when his heart stopped.

A district court judge wasn’t convinced by his creative attempt to find a loophole in the law, saying that Schreiber’s argument was “unpersuasive and without merit.” The fact that Schreiber was able to file a legal motion petitioning for his release, the judge added, “in itself confirms the petitioner’s current status as living.”

The inmate took his quest to the Iowa Court of Appeals, which was similarly unpersuaded. In an opinion published Wednesday, the panel of judges didn’t attempt to reckon with the spiritual or medical definition of “death,” a philosophical question that has generated intense legal wrangling and complex debates over medical ethics elsewhere. Instead, they zeroed in on what “life in prison” means.

“We do not believe the legislature intended this provision [ …] to set criminal defendants free whenever medical procedures during their incarceration lead to their resuscitation by medical professionals,” Potterfield wrote.

Noting that they couldn’t find any case law that would back Schreiber’s position, the appeals court judges also ruled that he couldn’t have it both ways — claiming to be dead as far as the criminal justice system was concerned while simultaneously going on with his life.

In his appeal, Schreiber had also argued that doctors violated his rights by failing to follow his “do not resuscitate” order when they pulled him from the brink of death. According to court records obtained by the Des Moines Register, hospital staffers made the decision after conferring with Schreiber’s brother, who only consented to giving him medicine to ease his pain. The panel declined to address that question because a lower court has yet to rule on it.

Schreiber remains incarcerated at the Iowa State Penitentiary in rural Lee County. His attorney could not immediately be reached for comment late Thursday night, and it’s unclear if he plans to take his fight to a higher court

[FenceFurniture]

"We are having people die that have never died before."

I don't disagree that the Trumpwit is an idiot of the first order, but at least for once what he said is actually true........'cept he didn't actually say it:
Did President Trump Say 'People Are Dying Today That Have Never Died Before'?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love it to be true! (that people can die more than once, I mean)

[rrich]

I don't disagree that the Trumpwit is an idiot of the first order, but at least for once what he said is actually true........'cept he didn't actually say it:
Did President Trump Say 'People Are Dying Today That Have Never Died Before'?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love it to be true! (that people can die more than once, I mean)

Actually SWMBO and I were watching CNN when he said that or something very, very similar.

[damian]

CNN ? Fake news!

Just remember you got Trump because of Hilary. If the democrats had fielded an electable candidate they would have won at a canter. How utterly deluded do you have to be to stand up at a podium in the middle of an election and call the electorate a basket of deplorables ?

I guess it's all just symptom of how stupid the electorate and how far politics has fallen...next it'll be Paris Hilton running against Rosanne Barr...