Cheap Grandfather Clock, Darken Wood & Wooden Veneer

[EagerBeaver71]

First coat of stain is on. Suggestions & help please... should I go darker?, maybe kill the red abit with something?

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The Jarrah you had samples of looked darker.

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The Jarrah you had samples off looked darker.

Its 50-50 Jarrah & Teak + 60% metho, I thought the teak would knock back the red a bit. It is somewhat lighter than the sample but its also taken in daylight rather than artificial lighting. Would it help if I took a photo of the sample next to the case?. What would you do now Rob?. If you say strip it I'll die!.

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What would you do now Rob?. If you say strip it I'll die!.

lol .

You can do anything with that . Nothing is sealed in . You could pull more out with metho or add more . Play with it and when your happy let it dry and seal it in .

As it is , it looks more like where you started before it was stripped off, doesn't it ?

[EagerBeaver71]

lol .

You can do anything with that . Nothing is sealed in . You could pull more out with metho or add more . Play with it and when your happy let it dry and seal it in .

As it is , it looks more like where you started before it was stripped off, doesn't it ?

Thats exactly what I thought, but wasn't the idea to start out lighter and gradually work up to the shade?. Would you tone down the red?, I was thinking of adding Walnut?

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Thats exactly what I thought, but wasn't the idea to start out lighter and gradually work up to the shade?. Would you tone down the red?, I was thinking of adding Walnut?

Yeah work up to the shade you want . In the space of 5 minutes . Add all the stain you want and get it over with .

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Yeah work up to the shade you want . In the space of 5 minutes . Add all the stain you want and get it over with .

I'll keep track of the mixtures for future reference. Progress report to come...

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This is slightly lighter than what I hope will be the final colour, I've tried to make it look less all one colour by using metho to fade area's and hopefully look more antique-ish.

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The colours used were 60ml Jarrah, 30ml Walnut, 20ml Metho. Constructive criticism welcome!, I have no idea what I'm doing so help is much appreciated.

Rob, what do I do now?, or rather what would you do now, don't say burn it cos I'll have a break down.

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Sam . After all we've been through What on Earth do you think I'm going to say

It looks about like what you showed you wanted.

You have an oil based sanding sealer yes ? Thin it a little and put it on FFFS = For Freddo Frogs Sake .

This will hold that type of stain in place so you can coat it up with shellac later, and not be taking out the stain as your putting on shellac.

The start of laying on shellac is the start of your FP job

It looks nice . I would have had the SS on as soon as that was dry so its good for the next day . I like to leave it to dry over night .

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Sam . After all we've been through What on Earth do you think I'm going to say

It looks about like what you showed you wanted.

You have an oil based sanding sealer yes ? Thin it a little and put it on FFFS = For Freddo Frogs Sake .

LMAO, For Fredo Frogs Sake!, I'm stealing that one!.

This will hold that type of stain in place so you can coat it up with shellac later, and not be taking out the stain as your putting on shellac.

The start of laying on shellac is the start of your FP job

It looks nice . I would have had the SS on as soon as that was dry so its good for the next day . I like to leave it to dry over night .

So you don't think I've gone too dark?, what sort of detailing & effects do you do after you got the stain on?, or is that after the sanding sealer is in place etc?.

Just letting you know I'm inflicted with being a perfectionist and never completely happy with anything I do.

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So you don't think I've gone too dark?, what sort of detailing & effects do you do after you got the stain on?, or is that after the sanding sealer is in place etc?.

The effects I do after sealing .
Ive said it all. All I'm prepared to say that is
A lot in this thread and a little in some other threads around here.


Ill add, there is a fast standard way of getting an aged look and that's this method sealing in with SS. Its complex enough and comes up great but the SS has limiting effects .

The more time consuming way I save for the best bits doesn't use modern products . Reacts very differently to things you may do on the faster SS job .

If you get your base colour close but lighter, seal it in and polish it , You will end up somewhere close to the pictures of things you put up .

Ive said this before . If you go get the spirit and oxide colours Ive talked about . Add and take off colours mixed in with shellac as you go . Experiment . Experiment . Experiment . Did I say Experiment ?? You will be shading and getting effects and be going darker with each additional application . It will be a standard polishing way of getting further.

In doing this the trouble I and everyone gets into is going to far and ending up to dark . Good looking light coloured jobs are a more skilled and harder thing to achieve . So go lightly .

I can say that .

I have always been very secretive about the deeper darker processes with some things I do to get things looking the way I do . Like every body else who does the same . Putting it all online is something I cant do . And it would drive me nuts trying to explain it anyway. To long and hard .
edit . Maybe one day Ill do courses on it and teach it . Seems to be the way to go ? Make a buck that way ?

Have you bought your shellac ? or shellac's ? Two types ?

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Maybe one day Ill do courses on it and teach it . Seems to be the way to go ? Make a buck that way ?

Or you could write a book Rob?... I get first copy signed for suggesting it tho!.

Have you bought your shellac ? or shellac's ? Two types ?

Yes mate, have all the stuff ready, sanding sealer, shellec and a bottle of 100% metho.

Would there be any technical issues by lightening the stain a little bit with metho?

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Would there be any technical issues by lightening the stain a little bit with metho?

If anything I think its looking on the light side already , nothing can go wrong if you lighten with metho though .
Strange question ?? You've just put it on with metho added , how could more put on then let dry do anything ?

Do some test spots or the whole thing . If its not looking right metho and steel wool it off and do it again .

Rob

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Strange question ?? You've just put it on with metho added , how could more put on then let dry do anything ?

When I used metho to wipe off the stain last time it looked as though it was trapping some of the stain in the grain, the wood lightened but the grain was dark, if that makes sense?.

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So I'm back on the job after a few weeks out. I'll be updating with progress within the next few days!. I have another project which involves a Birch Gateleg Table: https://www.woodworkforums.com/f173/...47#post2173294