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Thread: Brace Fanatics
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15th February 2019, 10:24 PM #136
Feeding Forstners.
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16th February 2019, 06:47 PM #137
Good point. What I'd do to test Vann's theory is mark which cutter is cutting freely, then turn the bit 180 in the chuck. If the opposite cutter now cuts well & the other doesn't, diagnosis confirmed. If the same cutter still cuts & the same one still clogs, it's back to making sure the sharp edges of the cutters are level...
Cheers,IW
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16th February 2019, 09:06 PM #138Try not to be late, but never be early.
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I gave my two Forstners a run, the one without centre point went well, the other not so good. From the look and feel of the edges I can tell no difference in sharpness. Even with a 3mm pilot hole the c/p one needed a heap of pressure to cut a hole. After a few practice runs I managed to get the non c/p doing a good job, as in the photo, and though the shavings appeared to want to clog it spat them out ok.
Of course on this BRACECENTRIC thread it is only polite to ID the brace you're using and in my case it's a Tough Major proudly WA made.
Mike I'd hazard a guess you're using a Stanley 945 - 10in....?
Cheers,
Geoff.
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17th February 2019, 02:02 PM #139
Of course on this BRACECENTRIC thread it is only polite to ID the brace you're using and in my case it's a Tough Major proudly WA made.
Mike I'd hazard a guess you're using a Stanley 945 - 10in....?
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Sorry Geoff no cigar this time it is a SAMSON Made in the USA.
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and my only other brace is this unmarked fellow.
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I would like to get my hands on a nice small brace for driving screws etc, I seen one in a shop yesterday but i'm not paying $35 for one. (call me cheap).
Mike
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17th February 2019, 06:55 PM #140
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17th February 2019, 07:27 PM #141
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17th February 2019, 09:48 PM #142Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Mike, I was sure it was a Stanley but there you go, you can't win them all, I've never come across the Samson brand. I found one similar to your "unmarked fellow' in my spare parts/unknown pile which is unmarked apart from "British Made Patents Pending" in a circle on the top of the head.
The trouble with the smaller sweep braces is they usually are more expensive, probably because they're less common but the "cuteness" factor also plays a major part.
Ian, I'm sure you're right about the sharpness of the one bit compared to the other, I need to buy a slim stone that I can give it touch up and see if it improves.
Cheers,
Geoff.
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What happens when the bit is turned 90°?
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18th February 2019, 07:18 AM #145
Good thought! Just tried it out and I can't get it quite at 90 degrees to the handle because the way the bit sits in the chuck. The side that is slightly closer to the handle is still doing most of the cutting. The brace it self looks pretty straight. So I don't think that is the issue.
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18th February 2019, 07:19 AM #146
I'm not really worried about it. It does what I need it for.
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18th February 2019, 07:22 AM #147
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18th February 2019, 07:47 AM #148
Geoff, unless you've got a HSS bit, the cutters can be filed with an ordinary auger-bit file. I sometimes polish up the edge left by the file with a fine diamond paddle, but tbh, it doesn't seem to make any difference to how well it cuts (in the DP). You might be able to feel the effect of a better edge using it in a brace.
Sharpening rims is the challenge. I made a suitable scraper by grinding down an old chainsaw file. It takes a bit of practice, but if you get the angle & pressure right, you can peel off a thin, even shaving of metal surprisingly easily. Just watch you don't slip at the wrong moment - I can attest that a sharp metal scraper does the same sort of damage to pinkies as a chisel!
Cheers,IW
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18th February 2019, 09:58 AM #149Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Mike, it should be feasible to cut a brace down and reweld it, probably modify one that has steel handle retainers rather than lead. I've attached a photo of a Holt whimble I bought on eBay a few years ago. When it arrived I found it was a cut and shut with a piece of rod added to make a brace into a whimble. The heat from welding had melted the lead retainers and the modifier had had to reform them.
Ian, I'll have a go at touching the rim of that bit up with a file and see how I go.
Cheers,
Geoff.
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18th February 2019, 01:05 PM #150
Geoff
This video might be of interest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDEyDKj2R9U
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