One for the brains trust

[TermiMonster]

Anyone see a problem here:
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I walked out to move my car, just as the guy was moving to the next car.
I have been booked for doing 2km over the limit. I have been booked for 3km over the limit. I have been booked for 4 k over the limit. And I have paid them all. I have been booked for parking incorrectly in front of my own house, twice (more fool me). But by hell I am going to fight this one. These f#@kwits just Sh*t me. The limit starts at 9 and they turn into the street at a cpl minutes before. I find that despicable. It's not just Stonnington, it's all of them. I wouldn't be so peeved if I hadn't actually gone out to move the car. I didn't realize until later that the time was prior to the limit. How do you spell seething.
Hrrrrrrrmmrmmmm......

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Good on you.

All too many people would just wear it... which is what lets these mongrels get away with it.

8:59 is not now - and never will be - between 9:00 and 10:00.

[dimithri]

No way. Tell them to get stuffed. Luckily you have a clear document with the time stamp. And not a guy who just wrote down 9

[doug3030]

Yep, stick it up 'em. trouble is it will still cost you time and inconvenience to beat them. Instead of just taking it to the council and challenging it take it to court and ask forcosts as well as voiding the fine.

[BobL]

Full sympathies all round but I'd take it to the council first as these things can get way out of your hands really quickly.
Looking at the situation in a cold hard light, the first thing a magistrate will do is ask why you didn't go to the council before bringing it to court and that will paint you in a negative light from the start.
It won't bother the council a dot to go to court as they do this all the time and it won't ultimately change anything - I'll bet the inspector does not even get a rap over the knuckles over it. Costs awarded won't pay for the agro already sustained and what you will go through, or time you lose over it, and there is always the chance council could still win through a technicality or other BS.

[rustynail]

It's invalid. Circle the time and send it back to Council. Don't waste your time hand delivering it. They haven't got a leg to stand on. Make sure you take a copy before sending.

[Chesand]

It's invalid. Circle the time and send it back to Council. Don't waste your time hand delivering it. They haven't got a leg to stand on. Make sure you take a copy before sending.

As above but I would hand deliver it, addressed to the CEO, and ask for a receipt. That way they cannot deny receiving it.

[ian]

I'd be talking malice.


BTW, in Victoria who collects the fine?
IN NSW it's State Debt Recovery -- so you will get nowhere talking to Council.

And Council doesn't give a toss because they get all the revenue so are looking for easy pickings -- which this site looks to be.

[Bohdan]

I had one like that. The council said "too late it's in the system".

I said we go to court, they issued a summons, I filled in the fact that I contest the fine, got notified of a court date, heard nothing more until a few days before the court case got a letter "case withdrawn".

[Bushmiller]

It's invalid. Circle the time and send it back to Council. Don't waste your time hand delivering it. They haven't got a leg to stand on. Make sure you take a copy before sending.

I'm with you on this, but I would suggest that a reference to going to the media (media of your choice) will have more effect as adverse publicity always looks bad and can quickly balloon into a pickle for them. It might start somebody delving into issues they would prefer to keep quiet.

Regards
Paul

[woodPixel]

How do you spell seething.

seethe
verb
gerund or present participle: seething
1. (of a liquid) boil or be turbulent as if boiling
2.(of a person) be filled with intense but unexpressed anger.


I too, would seethe.

[cava]

They cover themselves well - the ticket states "Alleged Offense". So it is not a verified offense and can only be verified by a Magistrate/Judge and not a council contractor/employee.

There is a protocol in place to protect yourself.

The first step is to write to the council asking the ticket be withdrawn and enclose a 'copy' of the notice. Always keep the original as evidence if you go to court. You must be seen to be honourable in the matter.

Chances are that they will push the point initially (all bluster), but there is also a real chance that court action may happen.

Perhaps get in touch with Community Law Resource Association, they fight councils/governments/credit suppliers regularly and teach others how to do it for essentially free. Google is your friend.

[TermiMonster]

Thanks for the replies, gents.
I'm not quite so peeved today, and I will probably just contest it through council. It will be withdrawn(I'd be very surprised otherwise).
I'll let you know how it goes.
cheers,
TM

[TermiMonster]

BTW, I like the idea of including the media. I'm not a fan of them usually, but they do have their uses

[Uncle Al]

'A Cuurent Affair' or similar TV shows love these stories.
It's probably a good thing to let things come off the boil for a day or two before fronting the dopes, much better for your blood pressure!.

Alan...