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  1. #1
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    Default Hard/White Shellac - Quick question

    I've been using hard shellac for a while (and I love it!)

    Some kitchen benchtops I made had to be repaired in a couple of places which meant sanding back to bare timber. So I went to get a new bottle of hard shellac only to be told by the shop I had bought this from a few times before ... that they have never stocked it!

    They had white shellac.

    Can I use that as a sealer over the bare timber bits and the old hard shellac (where it isn't sanded through) and then overcoat with hard shellac when I get some ordered in after Xmas?

    (btw speaking of Xmas I did try ringing Ubeaut, they are closed ... for Xmas)

    TIA

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    Sorry for the delayed response.

    Best to use Hard Shellac from start to finish. Using White shellac or any other shellac with Hard may lead to gracking or crazing down te track due to the different shellacs moving at a different rate to the Hard Shellac.

    We will reopen 4th Jan but no online orders will be processed until 15th Jan as we don't do our own online orders So if you want the freshest Hard Shellac with the longest shelf life you will need to hangout until around the 15th

    Cheers - Neil

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    Thanks for the response Neil

    Sadly I have already mixed the two (the priority was to seal the benches) and I think I will see how that goes rather than sand both benches back to bare timber. If problems arise I can do that but why make work if just perhaps I can get away with it!

    2 things.

    1. It only occurred to me too late but your stockist list is out of date and now the Hobart Carbatec store stocks your products including Hard Shellac so I will get some there.

    2. "APPLICATION:
    Hard Shellac is applied in the same manner as any normal shellac.

    - isn't the most helpful comment for amateurs like me (although I have now found Hard Shellac to be almost foolproof ... at least for this fool!) but a paragraph without resorting to the no doubt excellent book would be useful.

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    "APPLICATION:
    Hard Shellac is applied in the same manner as any normal shellac.

    - isn't the most helpful comment for amateurs like me (although I have now found Hard Shellac to be almost foolproof ... at least for this fool!) but a paragraph without resorting to the no doubt excellent book would be useful.
    Unfortunately there is no paragraph that would be of much help to a novice shellac user. However on the Data Sheet No 12 (for Hard Shellac) it says:

    For more details on using shellac see Data Sheet No 5 & 11A, available on our web site or get a copy of “A Polishers Handbook” by Neil Ellis, also available online at: www.ubeaut.biz or from most of our distributors.

    Below are link to Data Sheets Which contain more information about using shellac




    The best info I can give on using shellac is in 2 paragraphs on Data Sheet No 5 and is of no help with application:

    If you are not experienced at using FrenchPolish you would be well advised to undertake a class in polishing or at least obtaininformation from a good book on polishingor from someone who is experienced in usingthe product.

    Although French Polish is very versatile andreasonably easy to use for some applicationsit is not advisable that the novice just jump infeet first and start splashing it about willy-nilly all over a piece of furniture.

    For what it's worth I hope this reply is of some help, even though post in itself isn't of any help with using shellac.

    Cheers - Neil

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