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22nd September 2005, 12:16 PM #1
Bouncers
A bouncer follows a patron outside after an altercation inside a venue. The bouncer accosts the patron and punches him on the chin. The patron falls to the ground, hits his head on the concrete and subsequently dies. The bouncer is charged with manslaughter.
Sound familiar?
Only this time, the bouncer is found guilty and is sent to prison for 5 years. The difference? He wasn't on duty...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...9/s1465945.htm"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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22nd September 2005, 12:50 PM #2
As far as I'm concerned, it's a bigger crime when the bouncer is on duty. Just being a hired thug doesn't give you permission to behave like one and in this day and age, they can learn to handle themselves and situations without being violent.
Richard
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22nd September 2005, 12:53 PM #3
I used to think that the problem with bouncers is that they wear their bowties too tight and it stops the blood from getting to their brains. This just goes to show that it would make no difference either way.
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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22nd September 2005, 05:21 PM #4
Only 5 years?
And they wonder why no-one likes bouncers...
Yes, they have a job to do, but along with being thugs on contract, they are usually Hitler apprentices too.
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22nd September 2005, 05:28 PM #5
Originally Posted by silentC
So the taking of a human life via a criminal act is now only worth 2 years in jail.
What a fricken joke the legal system in this state is. :mad: :mad:I wanted to become a brickie but my old man said "No son, learn a trade."
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22nd September 2005, 05:39 PM #6
They don't always win.
I recently got an early morning call from my son, who is playing Rugby in the Uk during his GAP year. Apparently he and a few teammates (Aussies/Sud Effrikans) had been having an innocent cocktail in a nightclub (or seven perhaps) when the bouncers began to comment on their accents and birthplaces. A short altercation ensued resulting in the bouncers uniformly assuming a prone position on the carpet. The management had unsportingly called the Old Bill and my son was calling from the lock-up to enquire as to legal representation.
Good sense prevailed, the police apparently share our views on bouncers, and no further proceedings occurred.
Doesn't make up for the Ashes tho.Bodgy
"Is it not enough simply to be able to appreciate the beauty of the garden without it being necessary to believe that there are faeries at the bottom of it? " Douglas Adams
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22nd September 2005, 09:38 PM #7
Mate of mine used to train them in Qld, said the pre requisite was a little tuft of hair on the top of the head, talk funny and be big.
Apart from that IQ was unimportant.Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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22nd September 2005, 10:16 PM #8
Y'know, I've seen a lot of so called sportsmen in action in bars and clubs. I've seen end-of-season antics that should have had the guys locked up for a long time. I've heard that Hooke's was an innocent and I've heard he was being an a***hole at the time and deserved to get thumped (not killed).
I've also seen bouncers behave more like inmates or primates than crowd controllers. But what I have learned, and know for sure now, is not to believe the press, and to doubt the so called eye-witnesses unless they have a camera.
It has become very hard to determine who is telling the truth nowadays.
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22nd September 2005, 10:56 PM #9
Originally Posted by Groggy
Bulli
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22nd September 2005, 11:16 PM #10
Y'know, I've seen a lot of so called sportsmen in action in bars and clubs. I've seen end-of-season antics that should have had the guys locked up for a long time. I've heard that Hooke's was an innocent and I've heard he was being an a***hole at the time and deserved to get thumped (not killed).
I've also seen bouncers behave more like inmates or primates than crowd controllers. But what I have learned, and know for sure now, is not to believe the press, and to doubt the so called eye-witnesses unless they have a camera.
It has become very hard to determine who is telling the truth nowadays.
I've seen a bit too. I moonlighted (if thats the word to describe it) as a weekend taxi driver in Brisbane for a couple of years while money was short...and ....bloody hell....the towns pretty tame, but still plenty of crap goes on.
I would often sit outside nightclubs waiting for jobs. Saw plenty of bloody bouncer fights. And in many of them the bouncers could have prevented them. One would think being sober prefessionals they would know how to tuck their pride away when someone has a go at them. Yet often they can't help themselves.
And its gutless. Because their fresh, sober, strong....and the blokes they hit are drunk and slow. no wonder they kill on occation.
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22nd September 2005, 11:35 PM #11
I dont know about anyone else or perhaps its just me.
In years past how many times have we all seen someone get thumped, or indeed been the thumpee, outside a pub and smack their head on the pavement.......i know i have seen/been a few but i cant remember any of them even going to see a doctor let alone a funeral director........if it happened i cant remember ever seeing it on the evening news or as a headline on the morning paper.
Perhaps i or others were simply lucky or the event wasnt considered newsworthy enough to make it to primetime.
Like i said, i dont know about anyone else or perhaps its just me?if you always do as you have always done, you will always get what you have always got
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22nd September 2005, 11:42 PM #12
Originally Posted by apricotripper
Is there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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23rd September 2005, 12:03 AM #13
Originally Posted by DanP
Not only bouncers who do that Danif you always do as you have always done, you will always get what you have always got
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23rd September 2005, 12:17 AM #14
Originally Posted by maglite
No its not just you , I agree with you . These things happen and its sad but if your famous everyone is up in arms . I mean what about the 20,000 people who die world-wide EVERY DAY from starvation and basic medical problems . Why dont we see that on TV every day . Is it not newsworthy ? Is it just boring because it happens every day ? Our world is nowhere near perfect but my new born Charles is . He came home today .
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23rd September 2005, 12:35 AM #15Not only bouncers who do that DanIs there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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