Cows on the road

[MAPLEMAN]

I would still drive with "cattle on the road" caution.

The removal may only be temporary as stock is sold or replaced.

Just a thought.

Good call Bob...no room for complacency i guess
Hoping that they were removed so that necessary repairs are can be conducted on the fences as they are in poor shape
Only time will tell!...MM

[ian]

you just need a bigger bull bar

[MAPLEMAN]

The cows are still there unfortunately....they were simply out of view this morning
Will pop into the council h.q tomorrow and have some serious dialogue with their animal control experts
Investing in a bull bar for the Triton might be worthwhile though ...MM

[KBs PensNmore]

I can see a humongous BBQ coming up at MM's place, if they don't keep them under control.

[Bob38S]

Bullbars are good and I ran them on Falcons for many years. However, they are now very expensive, unless you get the right type eg airbag compatible etc they can cause you more problems than they prevent.

I could go on further but won't at this time as I'm sure any research you do will turn up the info. All I run these days on a Rav V6 is the heavier factory alloy nudge bar.

[Boringgeoff]

Unfortunately once cattle (and sheep) learn how to push through a shoddy fence they become habitual offenders and teach others. The only way to stop them is fix the fence properly or fix the cow.
In WA in unfenced station country it is the drivers responsibility to look out for them, if it's fenced then the onus is definitely on the stock owner.

[rustynail]

Injury is stress...i know who the owners are...all cattle are tagged too
Local police aren't happy either!
Guess they are getting sick of being called out to put them back into the paddock
Don't under estimate the tenaciousness of Mapleman, Rusty ...MM

Everybody suffers from stress. You may know where the cattle come from, but that doesnt identify the owner. An ear tag is not necessarily owner identification, usually only individual animal ID.
We used to call difficult cattle "Fridgies." I think you get my drift.

[MAPLEMAN]

Everybody suffers from stress. You may know where the cattle come from, but that doesnt identify the owner. An ear tag is not necessarily owner identification, usually only individual animal ID.
We used to call difficult cattle "Fridgies." I think you get my drift.

Yes Rusty we all suffer from stress ...and some of us cope with it differently than others do.
Let me alter the wording to 'TERROR' then...we are being terrorised!!
Rural Terrorism is what it is!
After discussions with a Council Animal Management Officer this morning,we ascertained who the owners of the property,and cattle,were...not rocket science!
Council to their credit were extremely helpful and diligent in their quest to help me.
They are taking the matter VERY seriously indeed
They have a clear understanding of the ramification(s) of my situation...legal and otherwise
They (Council) have had numerous complaints over the last few months regarding free ranging cattle wandering the roadsides within the shire
And surprise ,surprise ...a number of landowners on Cove road and Old Cove road were placed on notice.
Cows on the road are potential 'KILLERS' and Council recognize this fact
The message is, if you own livestock then it is your responsibility to ensure that they are securely restrained within the boundary of the property fence(s)...it's that simple!...MM

[rustynail]

How does Council decide ownership? Hardly any small holdings brand anymore. And until such time as the beast is marketed, it probably doesnt have a NILS chip. All the property owner has to say is it must have broken in, the same as its breaking out. Stray cattle often link up with others, therefore his argument is plausible.
Council can warn as much as they like, but until such time that they are prepared to organise a roundup and impound the offenders there wont be too much change to the statis quo

[Opelblues2]

rustynail, i Don't think many cattle in Queensland get sold straight off farm anymore, 99% go to yards for sale if not they are directly bought by meat wholesalers for supermarkets, and they want know when the were born, what farm, have they had their shots

I don't know about the cattle branding in the NSW, I do know myself that with in 3 months of a calf being born it had a ear tag, you are correct that you don't have to brand or tag unless you sell or they are stud or under 100kg liveweight , but in say that most produces did, to stop fidgies as you put it, and most fridgies didn't belong that person in the first place\owner.

From the Queensland Government Web Site
" Brands and earmarks are used to prove ownership of livestock. They are only compulsory for cattle and pigs when they are being sold. However they are recommended to avoid ownership disputes over stray animals "

[Opelblues2]

Link to the Queensland Government web site

https://www.business.qld.gov.au/indu...marking-cattle

A cattle earmark is an aid to identification, not proof of ownership. It may only be used in conjunction with the three-piece brand with which it is registered. It is an offence under the Brands Act 1915 to earmark without branding.

Purchased cattle with no earmarks may be earmarked provided they are branded with the brand with which the earmark is registered. Earmarking of cattle is not compulsory.

[rustynail]

Ear mark and ear tag are two very different things. Plenty of cattle are sold direct from farms (see advertisements listing stock for sale.)

[rustynail]

Not to mention live export...trucked farm to port.

[rustynail]

The old common ear tag has little to do with owner ID. On the other hand, the NLIS tag identifies the owner, the animal and the property. Problem is, the NLIS tag doesnt have to be fitted until the animal is transfered. Even then, arrangements can be made for "clean skins." Therefore, it is quite easy for a "stray" to have no ID.
Dont you love bureaucracy?

[Opelblues2]

Thank you, Rustynail. just asking do you run live stock, that way I don't insult you for your backround knowledge in this area

Im sorry I was getting of subject "cows on roads"

just to ans, you are correct cattle do get sold of farms that why I put up 99%, some of the main players in that field are Elders, landmark, RMA -Rural Marketing Agents Ltd, to name a few.

As for live exports that is a different matter, from memory live exports are on consignment ie a company like Elders or RMA I think there are two others. will have on there books property's that are able to supply so many head, the cattle will be musted in to yards up to weeks before export, the livestock wholesaler rep will source and buy pick. now they can go to feed lots where testing and pre-shipment quarantine

i forgot about this company anyway here is a link have a read its worth you time
http://www.wellard.com.au/home/rural...t-process.html