Integrity test, how are your standards????

[Cliff Rogers]

Cliff, you are contradicting yourself in the one post......

First spelling Nazis, now Fork'n grammar grouches, you know what I meant.

..... if it balances out a bad experience for you by keeping it you are giving someone else a bad experience and i bet that they will tell 10 times more people that you did the wrong thing than the bloke you do the right thing by. what goes around comes around, sometimes it takes a while but it happens

You missed my point..... I said "I play it by ear, if it's worth the brownie points, I'll give it back, if it balances out a bad experience, I don't."

Long boring story to make the point clearer so turn off if you are not interested...
About 10 years ago I had a bloke skip the country owing me $142. He left his company insolvent so I didn't get anything back from the receivers. (I got off lightly, one of his employees was out of pocket $3.5K)
Just after his 7 years in exile, he popped up again in a different city in a similar business. This time he was just down the street from me, about 5 houses away on the other side. One day a carton of wine worth $166 addressed to him was left at my door.... I have a long memory, no one ever came looking for the wine, if they had, I would have given it back.

As Doug says, "what goes around comes around, sometimes it takes a while but it happens"

PS. The turkey went broke again, this time he didn't get out of the country.

[Wood Borer]

I have been in the situations where I have alerted the staff the change has been incorrect or the number of items charged for has been incorrect. After telling them, they have refused to listen and I have walked out with the additional change or goods. Was that being honest? I felt uncomfortable about but what else could I do? Some smarty assuming I was trying to rip them off when I was trying to assist them.

At Bunnings one day I was purchasing sandpaper (about 20m off a roll) and they were going to charge me for only the width of the roll. I insisted on paying for the 20m rather than just the width! Yes, they can afford it but conscience can't.

[doug the slug]

About 10 years ago I had a bloke skip the country owing me $142. He left his company insolvent so I didn't get anything back from the receivers. (I got off lightly, one of his employees was out of pocket $3.5K)
Just after his 7 years in exile, he popped up again in a different city in a similar business. This time he was just down the street from me, about 5 houses away on the other side. One day a carton of wine worth $166 addressed to him was left at my door.... I have a long memory, no one ever came looking for the wine, if they had, I would have given it back. .

thats fully understandable cliff, i would have done the same. but from you r previous post, balancing out a wrong could have meant 'well i lost $100 yesterday to fred so if i keep this $100 overpayment from jack that will fix it. now i understand your point, and he still owes you interest!!!! what goes around......

[echnidna]

I didnt read Cliff's statement that way, I understood what he meant :eek: :eek:

[pau1]

A mate and I went to pick up a go-kart that we had purchased in country vic. On the way back we filled up the car at servo, it has both gas and petrol. He filled the gas and I filled the petrol. We went in to pay, told the woman at the desk the pump number and that we had both gas and petrol. She told us the amount and it was only for the gas. We said that she might want to check the total as we had both gas and petrol. She said yes thats correct, we said are you sure? The attendant got really shirty with us and started to argue with us that she had it right and basically how dare we insinuate that she may be wrong. We gave up arguing, paid for our gas and walked out with a free tank of petrol. It's not like we didn't try and do the right thing, she just wouldn't listen and it wasn't worth the agravation in argueing any further. I don't feel like I stole the petrol, she just refused to let me pay for it. :confused:

[DanP]

In that case you've made the effort. No offence has been committed.

[Termite]

Just had my integrity tested. The boss sacked a worker about 4 weeks ago, should have done it 2 years ago. This bloke really deserved to go, but now he has hit the boss with unfair dismissal.
My boss has just asked me to lie in a stat dec. to get himself out of trouble. He was promptly told where to shove his stat dec.

[E. maculata]

Way to hold your head high Termite, that's a fair dinkum test in my books. Sounds like the other 2 in the drama need refreshers in what you could teach them about honesty in all forms .

[DanP]

The boss sacked a worker about 4 weeks ago, should have done it 2 years ago. This bloke really deserved to go, but now he has hit the boss with unfair dismissal.

Surely if the bloke was that bad, the boss wouldn't have any problems with the claim that he was unfairly dismissed and therefore wouldn't need you to lie.

Dan

[Termite]

Dan, the problem is the Boss didn't follow the correct rules for dismissing a worker, regardless of whether he deserved it or not. Apparently the rules must be obeyed.

[DanP]

If has come to a point where you can't sack someone who is useless then the system needs to be looked at.

Dan

[Termite]

If has come to a point where you can't sack someone who is useless then the system needs to be looked at.

Dan

It is, thats why the unions are in an uproar.

[Sturdee]

Dan, the problem is the Boss didn't follow the correct rules for dismissing a worker, regardless of whether he deserved it or not. Apparently the rules must be obeyed.

So a worker who didn't do his work correctly gets sacked and then his boss who also didn't do his job correctly, by following the rules of proper dismissal, is asking you to lie to cover up his mistakes.

IMO the boss should also be sacked for his incompetence and the worker should rightly get what he is entitled to.

IMO it is not the system that is necessarily wrong but a lot of bosses / employers are the problem. And I've met a few :mad: who first incorrectly sack someone and then come and ask how they should have done it when it's too late.


Peter.

[Termite]

[QUOTE=Sturdee]IMO the boss should also be sacked for his incompetence /QUOTE]
Oh if you only knew the full story of incompetence, here it is , long story short.
60 year old company, Daddy dies, Mummy puts son in charge 3 1/2 years ago, son thinks he has a new piggy bank, runs company into ground (in spite of me screaming at him for years), now in process of trying to sell off as much as he can of the company, I'm sitting here drawing my salary just to keep up appearances, at 61 this looks like being my last job.
And yes, I do have the sh!ts with him. :mad:

[Sturdee]

The story sounds familiar. Heard a few like that.

All you can do is keep plugging away or should that be chewing away.


Peter.