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Thread: 22" Camelback Drill press
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18th March 2014, 08:40 PM #1
22" Camelback Drill press
Hi All,
I am planning to do a quick clean and paint of the drill. I did not want to paint it just yet but the old paint is literally falling off in places so i will.
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Drive for the gearbox
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The main spindle is MT3
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Thrust race bearing on the bottom, there is a fiber washer on top
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Fine feed worm and gear, plus the bevels gears for the auto feed
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3 speed gearbox for feeds, not sure how it works just yet.
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Thats it for now,
Cheers,
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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18th March 2014, 09:37 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Ewan,
Welcome to the Hercus club. Your drill will probably be the cheapest pound for pound Hercus product you buy. You'll need a Hercus vice:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MILLING-V...c0a4b50&_uhb=1
Ben
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19th March 2014, 09:43 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Very Nice
Ewan
A very nice purchase.
There is satisfaction about bringing something this good back into service, & the flat belt drive, beauty!
A solid well made machine, good for those big drilling jobs.
regards
Bruce
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20th March 2014, 11:53 AM #4.
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I'm glad you bought it Ew. I've always been fond of the 22. There is one for sale on Gumtree over here, my suburb, but the sellers is chasing 2 large or "realistic" offers.
Back in my woody days I used to dream of having a drill like the one shown in a photo of Wilbur and Orville Wright's workshop. The photo, one of a couple in a 60's Time Life book on flight, was wonderfully evocative. The drill, resplendent in black paint and oiled steel, could have been a Cannedy-Otto* though numerous manufacturers made similar drills.
This is a photo from www.wright-brothers.org of the shop.
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I will look forward to your posts on the revitalization of the Hercus.
Bob.
*http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/153/1175.pdf
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20th March 2014, 11:48 PM #5
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The drill is pretty well stripped bare now.
All the gears are in top shape, no damage to be seen anywhere.
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The gearbox shifter uses an interesting method to engage each gear. The gears are always in mesh. The driving shaft is keyed to the driven gear, and then has a short spring loaded key. By sliding the shaft the small sprung key engages with a keyway in one of the 3 gears.
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Pics at various stages of dis-assembly
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I had to use the quill to drive the power feed take off gear off the bevel gear.....
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The table looks really good, no chain drilling here!
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The gantry crane is becoming really useful
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The counter weight for the quill return is bigger than i expected
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These are the nifty little oilers all over it, unfortunately one has been broken off at some stage. Shouldn't be to hard to make a replacement that looks something like right....
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Thats all for now,
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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21st March 2014, 12:14 AM #6.
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That table is certainly out of the ordinary Ew. There was a 22 close by at the local boat yard on the Swan. The table would not have had a square inch of surface that wasn't riddled with drill holes. When I first saw the drill I got all excited thinking should I ask the old salt who owned it, whether he'd let it go. Then on closer inspection, I saw the table.
BT
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21st March 2014, 01:53 PM #7New Member
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Great post EW
Just about to do the same. Bought the machine that anorak bob mentioned. The price they were asking was unrealistic, so I made them an offer what I thought it was worth and surprisingly they accepted.
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My Drill has a few problems broken handle to engage feed, missing depth collar, guard to top of quill and no counter weight. Could you weigh your counter weight, save me guessing and any pictures of my missing parts would be appreciated
Regards Allan
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21st March 2014, 05:32 PM #8
Hi Allan,
I'll post the details of the weight now while I'm in the shed, and I'll take some pics of the parts and post them later.
The weight is a 400mm length of 65 dia steel. The chain is just bicycle chain or similar, it measures 780 from the top of the weight to the last link that pins into the quill.
Cheers,
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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21st March 2014, 11:03 PM #9
Here are the pics of the guard, collar and feed lever. The "extra" bit on the collar hits the feed lever and disengages the feed at the pre set point, or before the drill destroys itself....
Oh, and the weight is about 9.5kg.
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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22nd March 2014, 10:49 AM #10New Member
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Thanks Ew
excellant photos, they will be a great help. Once again many thanks
Regards
Allan
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25th March 2014, 06:49 AM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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25th March 2014, 09:57 AM #12
Hi Phil,
Whats funny is that it does actually measure 65mm, not 63.5 (2 1/2")
The bolts are all whitworth though, so the poor old girl has had the shifter treatment in a lot of places, but as i have found out metric sockets fit whitworth heads very well, at least for the sizes i have been using!
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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25th March 2014, 12:26 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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19th April 2014, 12:20 AM #14
Well after a week and a half of ignoring the drill and playing with the Holbrook, i decided i'd better get the drill back together. My excuse was i wanted to use the C10's TTA to turn some new taper pins. It worked a treat, with a sharp HSS tool i was easily able to turn the pins with no chatter or flexing, even though the pins are 1 1/2 long and 3/16" at the small end. I was feeding at a small .0009" per rev though.....
Cheers,
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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22nd April 2014, 03:03 PM #15Senior Member
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Ueee,
That drill sure cleaned nicely,did you use electrolysis or just a lot of hand work. The gears look really clean,almost like new. Great work a credit to you.Looking forward to seeing it operating.
Bob