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Thread: A boy and his toys
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16th March 2014, 05:06 PM #16
Paul
I haven't had the opportunity to do any significant work on the saw plates yet and because of my work (12hr shifts) there is not much opportunity for playtime. It will probably be next weekend before I really even have a "look" again. Actually that's not true, as I constantly have a 10 second peek and a quick drool .
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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16th March 2014, 05:32 PM #17
I forgot to say ... a pretty good little collection all up there.
There's nothing wrong with the D23s and the D8s are looking very good.
11ppi is a pretty uncommon pitch to find, also.
Have fun at work.
Paul
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16th March 2014, 06:10 PM #18
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16th March 2014, 06:22 PM #19
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17th March 2014, 06:48 PM #20
Did I say I wouldn't get a chance to do any investigative work? Well I am on my changeover day (Nights to days) and I was struggling with the fit out of SWMBO's new studio. I have a time honoured maxim of not attempting anything off night shift that requires brain power.
However I was flaunting that very good philosophy and consequently I was doing my brain in .
Then I remembered the relatively mindless process of rubbing back sawplates and the euphoria of discovering hidden information beneath a century of sweat and grime .
So I got out a timber block and some 400 W&D, lubricated with some turps and got to work on the unknown splitnut saw. Hawk eyed PMcGee thought he could see a word in the pic. Even before I started with the grit I felt he was right. I happened to catch the plate in the correct light.
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C. Bishop with the "1". I think this is indeed a saw made by Disston and not to be confused with G.Bishop saws. I think the "1" is a model number, but other than that I have no information.
I did take the tape off the handle and as we might have expected it was holding it together:
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The handle is cracked thought the grip too so what is holding it on? A clue
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I think it can be re-glued as it seems to be mostly there. The difficult aspect will be prising it apart without crushing the timber.
I did rub the heel to see if there was a stamp left but it doesn't seem so.
Well my brain has stopped hurting and overall I'm feeling a deal better. I think a stiff drink should fix up any residual symptoms of melancholia .
Oh; So what have I got here with this C Bishop?
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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18th March 2014, 12:43 AM #21
Have a look here ... page 136 ... http://www.roseantiquetools.com/site...isston1918.pdf
There was - probably still is - a Disston '00' model on US ebay asking US$90+
and not long ago I bought the same thing over there for US$20-ish ... so screw that guy.
That's a very cool saw to go with the #8. If you wasted your time to listen to my saw-boinging ... one of the saws I describe as "Disston Browns #3" and it is far louder and more resonant than the others. That's what some of my #12s sound like.
But check the prices .. 26" ... 1918 ...
D115 - rosewood handle - $36/doz
#12 - king of saws - $29
D100 - upperclass D8 - $25
The D23 types - in 1917/1918 they had the very detailed top to the handle, before it became just a smoothed hollow - $25
#16 - very very good steel (better than D100 I would think) - $22.50
D8 - ford falcon/holden commodore, sturdy and dependable - $22.50
#8 - $21.50
#76 - $21
#7 - the holden/ford ute, worker, no fuss - $20 (many #7s have a fine ring to them)
#3 - Brown's - $13.50
#1 - Bishop - $12
#00 - Jackson - $8
I've never held a Wenzloff hand/panel saw or a LN one ... but (all due respect) given the manufacturing expertise they had then (see the 1912 catalogue ... http://www.roseantiquetools.com/site...isston1912.pdf) I suspect they are on a par metalwork-wise to the lower end of that series ... and yet the lower end of that series can still be awesome tools. 100 years down the track!
Cheers,
Paul
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18th March 2014, 12:56 AM #22
A bitta discussion ... with Don McConnell channelling Erv Schaffer ...
http://www.swingleydev.com/archive/g...ubmit_thread=1
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18th March 2014, 08:28 AM #23
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18th March 2014, 10:18 AM #24
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18th March 2014, 10:39 AM #25
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18th March 2014, 09:42 PM #26
I removed one of the sawnuts from my prehistoric #8 to measure the thickness of the nuts, which was 2.06mm. As can be seen the faces are beveled inwards which explains the difference in diameter between the face and the hole in the tote.
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I modified an old chisel, which I have used as a wide screwdriver for years, even further to remove the screw nut. It came off as easily as you like. This information is primarily for Stewie who has kindly offered to see if he can supply a replacement from his stock.
Of course he may not have one the same.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"