MEMBERS DECLINING

[doug3030]

You didn't need a notification Doug, you were warned up front and knew exactly why you were banned.
Neil

Neil, I am not talking about any previous identities under which I have been banned, This is just about my current identity. I have never been banned under this identity, but I have had plenty of posts vanish without a trace or any form of explanation.

So when you said

Anyone who has a post or thread deleted is notified with a reason for that deletion.

I was seeking clarification as to whether this is a new policy which has been recently implemented, since I have never seen it happen when any posts I have made under this identity have been deleted.

I had no intentions of bringing up being banned under previous identities. I am well and truly over that and I think that you would find if you looked into it that one of your former moderators at that time was rather gifted in the art of modifying the truth to suit his own purposes. And I only mention that because you brought the subject up. I have no further interest in discussing that.

Cheers

Doug

[FenceFurniture]

I'm interested to know what you define as a commercial gain.

Perhaps my post wasn't long enough to attract your attention?

Surely the option to put me on your ignore list is preferable to having everything I post deleted - even tho it doesn't breach the rules by being a tattle tail and reporting everything to the mods?.

I don't have you on ignore, but I do a quick scroll check to see how long your posts are before I decide if I read them. I did used to read the long ones, until the pattern emerged.

As to the car - I was teaching my daughter and future son in law to drive - with a free driving lesson. Sadly a roo decided to end the lesson prematurely. I was again - just trying to help someone else out - and again - I get attacked publicly for doing so.

There's off-topic, and then there's completely irrelevant. All you have to do is start a new thread on the subject of the roo in "Have your say".

I didn't start this thread - I did attempt to give my point of view as to whats wring and been attacked for doing so.

Can no one see that the constant attacks on members is whats driving declining membership?.

Uh oh, my hypocrisy detector has just gone off-scale.

Do you not remember posting a long tirade (639 words) against another member which ended in the following
"You just don't pass the smell test (name withheld)... we aren't the yanks - we can smell a wannabee a fricken long way off."

followed by a PM to said member (532 words) saying how you'd received congratulatory PMs? The PM was far more vitriolic than the post.

The post and the PM were nothing but an attack - 2 in one day!

They both immediately preceded your banning.

I doubt anyone's listening frankly.

How do you explain the numerous responses to your posts in this thread?

[Michael G]

You say that your guilty of reporting my posts not because they break any of the rules - but because they don't interest you.

No. Your posts when they were concise, said something of worth and on topic did interest me. It's the waffle I can't stand and it's the waffle I'll report particularly if it starts being way off topic, offensive or promoting theories contrary to established fact.

I'm sure that the moderators would have no hesitation in having some words with me if I started reporting otherwise quite reasonable posts just because I didn't like them.

I try not to use the ignore button because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I must admit being tempted in some circumstances. However, at the moment to repeat myself I am

Not interested.

Michael

[DaveTTC]

Don't you love these threads

Timless - I personally find the looking up girls skirts ver offensive in the extreme manner when we are talking about predominantly grown men.

Had it been kids you were talking about that may be viewed different. I am immensely surprised the mods did not delete that post. What can be said is that it is there and been quoted many times for all to see.

Stating facts is one thing or even what you perceive to be truth but stooping to such low insults is going too far


Dave the turning cowboy

turning wood into art

[Sturdee]

These moderators blokes probably look up little girls skirts as well!

Personally I think that for making such insulting and derogative comments he should at least be permanently banned.

Peter.

[plantagenon]

All the trouble here for me personally has been trying to help others.

I've had posts deleted with zero advice.

If your on the mods watch list they view every post looking for an excuse to delete and ban.

The simple message is - don't help anyone else ou with experience or advice!

Message has been recieved loud and clear!

Take anything you can get and contribute nothing!

I'm not the only one - I've had a lot of PM's expressing similar views...


If you don't think you have a real perception problem, then your living in cloud cuckoo land.

Denial is not de river in Egypt.

sayin'

Ohh and an addendum - I was banned for what was said in PM's - because the mods read them- meaning they aren't private.

These moderators blokes probably look up little girls skirts as well!

Timeless - I have never had a thread, post deleted. This thread was posted to get the views of members on whether a chatroom should be permitted. After reading the crap you just put on about little girls skirts I can see the reason why people like you should not be allowed to make a comment without some sort of moderation. I can also understand why so many of your posts have been deleted. That comment was nothing more than defamatory.

[plantagenon]

One of your former "mods" made me aware of the list!

Also - I haven't broken rules - you've as much admitted you delete and ban coz you don't like or agree with what "content" members contribute!

You also breach the privacy of members PM's - because my last "banning notice" referred to just that!

Someone else here regularly "breaches the rules" by doing posts for commercial gain, thinly disguised as "reviews of equipment" and when members complain about a breach, you punish those who report it while protecting the member breaking the rules?

And you wonder why membership is declining?

You really have no idea do you?

You evem start threads asking why memberships declining and when people take the risk of telling you - then you attack them for it, rather than taking on board the message.

Fine. I'm done with it - because you cannot be helped. It's just a waste of time and effort.

There is a self righteous cult who hold sway here and most members are sick of it and leaving.



Breaking the law can have repercussions.

Indeed Timeless - breaking the law can have repercussions, including the laws of civil and criminal defamation. I also read your comments on the Telecommunications Interception Act (Cmth) (theTI Act) and the various Acts under its main heading. It is an offence to intercept a telecommunication in transit, i.e, between you and the intended recipient. However, this is not the case here, in law, as the intended recipent is the WW Forum and your comments are not intercepted but mere deleted by the recipient. Therefore, no offence. Irrespecitve of that when you joined the Forum you agreed to certain conditions and acknowledged that comments (posts) that are unacceptable would be deleted. This, in fact, is consistent with the concept of the TI Act and is not illegal - therefore, no offence. However, while you are on the law, there is also a provision under the TI Act and the Commonwealth Criminal Code which makes it an offence to send offensive comments via a telecommunications facility, in this case, the internet. I would have thought your comments regarding little girls skirts are getting very close to crossing the line if they haven't already. As Fred said, Don't slam the door on the way out.

[plantagenon]

Neal

This has degenerated from a sensible thread on what (if anything) would keep up the interest of members in the Forum. The majority of members have voted against it although essentially, this in not their choice, but yours as you pay for it. I am happy with the comments I received and the debated that ensued - it did get many people thinking and commenting. However, it has recently been lowered to personal attacks by very angry or disturbed people. The purpose of the thread has been served - can you remove or lock off my thread please.

[Groggy]

Oh dear, this thread really did not deserve to go where it did. A good question and some fair responses. General consensus seems to be no but there are occasions it would be nice to converse in real time with someone on a topic.

Thanks for the question plantagenon.

[danny.s]

Jesus guys, chill out. We're not saving whales here, it's just wood!

[DaveTTC]

on topic before this gets locked

I'm happy for chat rooms on the forum should it happen


Dave the turning cowboy

turning wood into art

[Evanism]

Wow, I have to admit this thread is rollicking good fun!

If I might add my 2 cents, I've actually found 5 really top guys here in Canberra due to this forum. Normally, your online mates are nothing but handles, a story and that's about it. These 5 chaps are great...intelligent, keen, skilled, helpful and interesting.

I don't think the forum is bad at all. I've certainly annoyed my fair share of people as my sarcasm and humour can be a little obtuse, but I don't think I've deliberately stabbed anyone....but some dudes do seem to be quick to deliberately find offence. Maybe it's the nature of the Internet now....different strokes and all that.

So, my experiences seem to be in pretty sharp contrast to....ah...others

Maybe the forum mods should put an earlier ban on these who refuse to trip their own 60 amp fuse?

[ubeaut]

This thread has been closed at Original Posters request and at the right time. Good post Evanism.
Timless Timber has left the building on post number 666.

Neil