Auctions Question

[RicB]

Well I guess that would be me. The forum owner.

Your last post until this one was October 2012. It looks like you have only ever used the forums to sell for your own gain and until now for nothing else.

I guess that gives you have the right to complain about something you haven't even used as being a dud, but as a non contributing member other than for your own financial gain I personally don't think you have the right to speak for anyone other than yourself. So I'll reply to you in the vain your post was made.



And the difference between the old Market Place and the new one in your opinion is.....?
Um. The name isn't the same. Auctions done to avoid confusion with old M P. I'll change it just for you if you like.
Um... It looks different. Most definitely does.
Um.... It gives you more options. Well that's just not right how dare you.
Um....... It looks like epay. Really is nothing like it, but does look similar sort of, kinda like.
Um.......... I too thought it was meant to be a place where you could offer your excess tools to others for a value you considered fair. So what has changed. Nowhere does it say rip anyone off.
Um............. I don't like change. Get off the horse and cart and save the poo for the roses. It's 2013 not 1913.



This is a Benevolent Dictatorship not a democracy. Funny how I get to pay all the bills to keep this monster on line, updated/upgraded and keep it FREE for everyone and anyone (you included) to use. Yet you as non contributor who uses the forums for free and only for your own gain by selling, seems to think you have right to put down something you haven't even tried and speak for others. I don't think so.

Every time something new is done there are complaints, some have vowed never to use the forums again because it's so unusable and different. But hey, they're still here and running. We've lost a number of people because they couldn't deal with change but have gained way more than we've lost.

I never have and never will, do anything to harm these forums no matter what you or anyone else may think.

In the 14+ years the forums have been running there have been many changes. Some have been enormous and drastic most are hardly noticed. Only what's best for the forums and members has ever been done and this will continue as long as the forums exist.

Cheers - Neil

PS We realise there are problems with the new Auction forum and are working on fixes for whatever we can. It was in testing for almost 2 years and many thousands of dollars have been spent on upgrading it to what we need with many, many hours of work going into fixes. It is still a work in progress as the entire Woodwork Forums are.

Change happens. Get over it. Help by reporting problems and not whinging and things should get better as we're ready and willing to fix any and every problem we can. Some things beyond our power or reach can't be fixed but we give it all a good try.

That's the beuty of being a dictator, it's like John Wayne toilet paper....you don't take no $### from them Indians......can I say Indians? I mean native Americans.

[Nanigai]

There's a slogan often seen about Australia (and other countries) using the appropriate flag, "If you don't like it, leave" which applies here as well.
I, like others here, am a member of several forums and without doubt this is the best there is. I find that it is now my forum of choice and I rarely use or visit the others.
It is obvious IMHO that it is one of, if not the best, forum in the world based on the number of overseas members, the culture of sharing, the camaraderie, the friendships etc, etc. This is not seen much on other forums and it's one of the reasons I spend time here. I would describe it as like having a great bunch of mates I get together with to discuss my hobby/interest with, having no fear of asking a stupid question and always getting useful help advice or comment.
I havent used the Auction yet but will probably do so eventually. Looking forward to having it there if when I have a use for it.
Just saying.

Thanks Neil.

[Ray153]

Neil,

Is there any progress with a solution to the problem of access via tapatalk?

[ubeaut]

This link might shed a bit of light on the subject or could leave you even more confused.

It appears to be working now, albeit very slowly on my android phone.

I know it's not Tapatalk but can you log onto the forms without Tapatalk maybe via google or just entering woodworkforums.com into the address line. This will (should) automatically load the default mobile forum skin. Accessing the Auctions section this way is much faster and there doesn't appear to be any problems using this method.

If the forums load on your device with all the bells and whistles you get on a laptop or desktop... Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the Style Chooser drop-down (bottom left on all pages) and select Default Mobile Style.

Hope this is of some help.

Cheers - Neil

PS the Market Place/Auctions forum can be found under the TABBED FORUMS FOR TAPATALK - For mobile use only section.

[nosnow]

Hi Neil

Would there be a chance to place the Activity Stream Tab on to the Auction Forum as it would make it a lot easier to navigate out of the auction forum

At the moment I go to old market place then to activity stream to view new posts
Cheers Rod

[Ray153]

This link might shed a bit of light on the subject or could leave you even more confused.

I know it's not Tapatalk but can you log onto the forms without Tapatalk maybe via google or just entering woodworkforums.com into the address line. This will (should) automatically load the default mobile forum skin. Accessing the Auctions section this way is much faster and there doesn't appear to be any problems using this method.

Hope this is of some help

PS the Market Place/Auctions forum can be found under the TABBED FORUMS FOR TAPATALK - For mobile use only section.

I was always able to access the auctions through using safari and could bid etc with all the options as if I was on a desktop computer.

Following the advice to use the default mobile skin meant that I could read the threads but not bid or see how long was left. I would be loath to use the forums using the default mobile skin.

Whilst it may be a workaround to use safari etc to visit the forum, I find it pretty inconvenient as I use tapatalk to look at quite a few different forums.

It may be a first world problem to some, but I am not interested in going from tapatalk to look at all the forums I routinely visit and then to safari just to see if there is anything listed that I might bid on. I used to routinely check the marketplace thread and have made more than one purchase there. I am not likely to surf the website just to go to the auctions threads.

There is probably no way to tell how many, but I suspect that if this issue with tapatalk access to auctions remains, there may be a significant number of auctions may lapse that might otherwise have been successful.

Is there likely to be a solution to this Neil? Or are tapatalk users going to have to resign themselves to using a workaround eg safari if they want to look in the auctions thread?

[ubeaut]

Is there likely to be a solution to this Neil? Or are tapatalk users going to have to resign themselves to using a workaround eg safari if they want to look in the auctions thread?

You may need to talk to the TapaTalk people rather than us on the forums as it is TapaTalk that seems to be the problem.

Probably not really anything to do with the New Market Place problems but it is an associated problem that probably can't or won't be fixed because those running a more sophisticated forum rather than a bog standard one are unfortunately, well and truly in the minority. So maybe not worth bothering about.

Mobile devices will probably lead to the eventual death of forums as they are limited somewhat as to what can be done via TapaTalk, etc. Many forums are currently losing around 30% of their advertising income because of them and we're much the same. Without the income from Google, etc, most forums will eventually cease to run as they have to either be funded by the owners or charge users a fee.

Sorry about the rant.

Cheers - Neil

PS These forums as are all forums are designed for use on laptops/desktops/tablets, etc. There are work arounds for mobiles, etc but that's exactly what they are... workarounds. Safari, Chrome, Firefox Explorer, etc aren't workarounds but what all forums are designed for. I'm pretty sure there isn't a forum that's specifically designed for mobiles, because if there was we'd probably have it running.

[Ray153]

You may need to talk to the TapaTalk people rather than us on the forums as it is TapaTalk that seems to be the problem.

Cheers - Neil

PS These forums as are all forums are designed for use on laptops/desktops/tablets, etc. There are work arounds for mobiles, etc but that's exactly what they are... workarounds. Safari, Chrome, Firefox Explorer, etc aren't workarounds but what all forums are designed for. I'm pretty sure there isn't a forum that's specifically designed for mobiles, because if there was we'd probably have it running.

Neil, thanks for the reply and I understand that some things are not always going to please all of the people all of the time, and I am not trying to be difficult.

I would make one observation however to clear up an apparent misunderstanding. I am using a tablet, nowhere have I said anything about a mobile phone.

You say that the forums are designed for tablets as well as laptops etc, but I still get a pop up message saying my session has expired and try re-entering via the account tab (whatever that means) when trying to access the auction threads.

[ubeaut]

G'day Ray

If you're using a tablet would you not be better to run the full version of WWF rather than using Tapatalk which is very limited in what it can do compared to the full version.

What sort of tablet? Make, size, etc
What browser? If IE what version?
Do you have the same problem with other browsers?
Are you logged in?
Do you check the remember me box when logging in?
Do you log out or just leave when finished?
Try clearing your cache memory or log out which should clear the cache for the forums.

There is a time out which will cause you to need to log back in again. I will check this and maybe extend it if needed.

I'll be back.

Cheers - Neil

[Ray153]

G'day Ray

If you're using a tablet would you not be better to run the full version of WWF rather than using Tapatalk which is very limited in what it can do compared to the full version.

What sort of tablet? Make, size, etc
What browser? If IE what version?
Do you have the same problem with other browsers?
Are you logged in?
Do you check the remember me box when logging in?
Do you log out or just leave when finished?
Try clearing your cache memory or log out which should clear the cache for the forums.

There is a time out which will cause you to need to log back in again. I will check this and maybe extend it if needed.

I'll be back.

Cheers - Neil

Hi Neil

Ipad with 32gb.
Safari but I much prefer to use tapatalk because I look at a number of different forums and find it much more convenient
I don't use other browsers on my Ipad
Yes, I log in both with tapatalk and with Safari
Yes, in safari I check the box
I just leave

[Ozartisan]

Hi Guys
Having problems with the new Auctions section.
The details in the posts are not showing up on screen. This applies to both text and images.
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Am using Explorer 9 on Windows 7
Have taken a screen shot to show you.
Cheers
Peter

[ubeaut]

I Have checked all your permissions and cannot find any problems.

|We have had a number of past problems with IE from v7 onwards, even IE10 has problems with different sections of the forums.

Have you tried using Firefox or Chrome or any another browser to see if it works with them?

If not please give it a go and let me know in here if the problem still persists. I am using Firefox and have also tried the same post in Opera, and Chrome without a problem.

Just tried with IE10 and have the same problem as you. As I have said on numerous occasions and even had a Notice up for a few months IE does not play well with these forums This Post in a test thread pretty well says it all and it appears to now be a carry over to IE10.

I'm sorry but the best fix for this and many other problems would be to dump IE and go to another browser.

Cheers - Neil

[coffenup]

hi I can see the front page but when I open them I see only the comments & not the actual items that are up for auction or sale
what am I doing wrong
Regards Michael

[DJ’s Timber]

hi I can see the front page but when I open them I see only the comments & not the actual items that are up for auction or sale
what am I doing wrong
Regards Michael

Michael

Did you read Neil's post immediately before your post? Would explain your problem if you're using Windows Internet Explorer

[TermiMonster]

hi I can see the front page but when I open them I see only the comments & not the actual items that are up for auction or sale
what am I doing wrong
Regards Michael

This may be totally wrong, but try scrolling up. Opens up on the comments for me, then I scroll up to see the item. 'Dunno why. (Firefox, Win7, on PC)
Let us know if this works.
TM