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Thread: Spindle Moulders and Tooling
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15th July 2013, 10:45 PM #16
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16th July 2013, 12:05 AM #17Senior Member
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$200 !!! Wow that's a good price.
I've seen some really good old solid SM's go on ebay for around $400-$500 which is what I'm aiming for.
Yes, powerfeeders are expensive new and the odd one or two that come up on ebay or gumtree seem to fetch good prices.
Stewie
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16th July 2013, 05:59 PM #18Senior Member
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Spindle Moulders and Tooling
Hi Cured,
a 1/4 hp may be fine for small sections but for heavy boards such as 40mm x 2m where an edge is moulded I think the smaller unit would be unsuitable. Friends of mine who were furniture makers also had a similar set up fitted to a Felder machine.
Cheers,
Paintman
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16th July 2013, 07:58 PM #19Member
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Interesting topic because I've always wandered why the newer cutters have to have limiters on them.
Ok so I realise SM are beasts of machines and can do some nasty damage. But why limit the amount of stock removal?
I think it comes down to the type of cutters and heads, use of feeders, featherboards etc, the manufactuer (or more so, where it's made), and most importantly the operator that should determine the use of limiters.
I took some photos today of the 2 machines in the workshop,
One is a relatively new Hafco model (made in Taiwan) it came with a bunch of cutters and limiters that mounts to the head which btw is very lightweight. If you can see the blue head attached to the machine it almost looks like aluminium. The boss also bought another head that come with a bunch of cutters/limiters because it was cheaper than buying a specially made cutter for our old beast that follows...
The next few photos are of an old beast Wolfenden, and the heads for that one are quite heavy, the straight cutter that's on the machine is also used with a circular saw blade as it's helped get a cleaner rebate. The other cutters on the head look as tho they really need limiters but somehow they eat through timber without problems.
Unlike the Hafco, this beast can be used with a powerfeed or magnet featherboards and it's my personal machine of choice.
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16th July 2013, 09:55 PM #20
Thanks for the info, I have found a new Jet Tool PF that appears a bigger unit for $75 more but the specs are unclear. I'm also worried this is a non-warrant-able item since Gregory machinery lost the dealers license to Carbatec 3yrs ago, further Jet Tools USA no longer market their own power feeders. So this must be sitting on a shelve/demo for the last 3yrs. So in a nut shell I'm still looking
Cheers,
Pete
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16th July 2013, 10:16 PM #21
Interesting photos, do you use the IVA cutter head on the HF SP-300? thats 150mm OD compared to the TM of 90mm OD, does it make a difference? That HF's SM looks like the same unit I'm waiting for to arrive, have you found any flaws?
Cheers,
Pete
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16th July 2013, 10:21 PM #22
this is my spindle moulder
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I have yet to pick it up
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16th July 2013, 10:24 PM #23
[QUOTE=PaintMan;1673079 I have now fitted a new 1hp power feeder that I purchased from A1 Machinery in Sydney for less than $900 and this makes a big difference.
Cheers,
Paintman.[/QUOTE]
Paintman, I've tried to find A1 Machinery in Sydney but it appears they do not have a web address or they are trading under another name. Because I've looked in White and Yellow pages. Could you give us their phone number?
Cheers,
Pete
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16th July 2013, 10:27 PM #24
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16th July 2013, 10:35 PM #25
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16th July 2013, 10:55 PM #26
That's quite a project, 8yrs ago when I retired I decided I needed a hobby so I started to collect tools (machinery). I have so far collected 15 (all new), I pull they apart and try to make them run better. So far I still have 3 to go plus this new MS. Its taken me this long as early retirement came at a cost, health and hospital visits and as yet I haven't built a think!
So I can well understand 12 machines is quite a project, I wish you luck and health...
Cheers,
Pete
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16th July 2013, 10:57 PM #27Member
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Yeah Pete that is HafCos sp300, I think you just pointed that out to me, but I believe the other loose cutter head sitting on the machine is actually for the Wolfenden. The HafCo has a smaller spindle head whereas the Wolfenden has a larger one. Is that what you meaning by TM? (Im not familiar with that term yet).
As for any flaws, hmmmm well I don't particularly like the plastic handles, they may well be made of decent plastic but still, as I turn them to adjust something, they almost feel brittle. Apart from that, the machine itself is good. It comes with a detachable sliding table which should be great for your panels, cast iron bench is always a good thing and the arbor tilts (which btw the Wolfenden doesn't do) which is great for making bevelled edges with the one straight cutter.
When I think about it, a spindle moulder is just an overpriced, industrialised router table.
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16th July 2013, 11:04 PM #28Member
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That's an awesome machine Dave, lets hope you have some room to put it by next feb
What maker is that one? Would cutter heads be interchangable between certain machines providing the spindle travel and arbor size? But that would also depend on motor size and speeds right?
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16th July 2013, 11:06 PM #29
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16th July 2013, 11:08 PM #30
Its 3 Phase and I think it may be same make as the old one you have at work
My cutters are what would be called dangerous. Im told every time they start it up they duck under the table, if no blades come flying out they get up and start to use it
Im hoping they are interchangeable cause I love life