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  1. #1
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    Default how do i make homemade black japan ?

    i just started making tables for a living and use a lot of black japan,
    can someone advise me on how to make black japan, i read elsewhere in the forum that it's just bitumen paint and turps, i had an old tin lying around so i gave it a go and it turned out better than the brand stuff, and easier to apply, but i still need to know more about it before i use for real...

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    I'm interested in this as well. Anyone? What is Bitumen paint?

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    Try putting some finish coats over it and see what happens?
    I know car paints stick to it.(over body shultz)
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    Default home brew

    i spoke to a guy at ' mother of pearl and sons' they have a website too. and he says they make there own black japan and it's just bitumen tar and turps...
    Hurry, slowly

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    Default Black Japan?

    Why use Black Japan? Years ago I tried using Black Japan on some oregon, even after two coats I can still see tinges of brown. Expensive too. I'm now using Metal Etch Black - just one coat and it turns really jet black. its quite cheap $35 for 4 ltrs and you don't need much. On European Ash the grain looks a bit silvery at certain angles. I think its the stuff they use on those speaker boxes (assuming its wood not vinly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by al2
    Why use Black Japan? Years ago I tried using Black Japan on some oregon, even after two coats I can still see tinges of brown. Expensive too. I'm now using Metal Etch Black - just one coat and it turns really jet black. its quite cheap $35 for 4 ltrs and you don't need much. On European Ash the grain looks a bit silvery at certain angles. I think its the stuff they use on those speaker boxes (assuming its wood not vinly).
    Yeah, I tried something similar to make a japanese style light shade, using black dye from Bunnnies mixed with tung oil. After about 10 coats it still looked brownish. Where d'you get the etch black from?
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    Default black etch

    The black etch I use is from Mirotone called Mirokey VY 6640FG Black Etch Gloss. Cost about $38. I also use their satin polyutherene (much better than Wattly's) which I find goes on well without leaving brush marks. I just use both products with a paint brush. Washes off with thinners not turps. They seem to hold their prices well - I remember first using the products about 15 years ago and it cost about $30+. They only supply in 4 ltr tins. As they don't now sell off their Sydney branch, you might have to call them to find out retailers.

    You can check out black etch from Mirotone website
    http://wwwmirotone.com.au

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