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22nd June 2005, 06:42 PM #61Registered
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Originally Posted by Driver
I have now gone all tingley in the nether regions with the thought.
I wait with baited breath, what ever that means??
Al
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22nd June 2005, 06:52 PM #62
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22nd June 2005, 07:08 PM #63Originally Posted by ozwinner
(Incidentally, I see your mate Chuck has been making derisory remarks about coalminers in another thread. Up the Republic!)
Col (the rabble-rouser)Driver of the Forums
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22nd June 2005, 07:11 PM #64Originally Posted by bitingmidgeDriver of the Forums
Lord of the Manor of Upper Legover
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23rd June 2005, 09:04 AM #65I wait with baited breath, what ever that means??"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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23rd June 2005, 09:41 AM #66
Ah, the internet has all the answers.
bate1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bt)
tr.v. bat·ed, bat·ing, bates- To lessen the force or intensity of; moderate: “To his dying day he bated his breath a little when he told the story” (George Eliot). See Usage Note at bait1.
- To take away; subtract.
Baited or Bated?
The correct spelling is actually bated breath but it’s so common these days to see it written as baited breath that there’s every chance it will soon become the usual form, to the disgust of conservative speakers and the confusion of dictionary writers. Examples in newspapers and magazines are legion; this one appeared in the Daily Mirror on 12 April 2003: “She hasn’t responded yet but Michael is waiting with baited breath”.
It’s easy to mock, but there’s a real problem here. Bated and baited sound the same and we no longer use bated (let alone the verb to bate), outside this one set phrase, which has become an idiom. Confusion is almost inevitable. Bated here is a contraction of abated through loss of the unstressed first vowel (a process called aphesis); it has the meaning “reduced, lessened, lowered in force”. So bated breath refers to a state in which you almost stop breathing through terror, awe, extreme anticipation, or anxiety.
Shakespeare is the first writer known to use it, in The Merchant of Venice: “Shall I bend low and, in a bondman’s key, / With bated breath and whisp’ring humbleness, / Say this ...”. Nearly three centuries later, Mark Twain employed it in Tom Sawyer: “Every eye fixed itself upon him; with parted lips and bated breath the audience hung upon his words, taking no note of time, rapt in the ghastly fascinations of the tale”.
For those who know the older spelling or who stop to consider the matter, baited breath evokes an incongruous image, which Geoffrey Taylor humorously (and consciously) captured in verse in his poem Cruel Clever Cat:
Sally, having swallowed cheese,[I’m indebted to Rainer Thonnes for telling me about this little ditty, which appears in an anthology called Catscript, edited by Marie Angel. However, it was first published in 1933 in a limited edition of Geoffrey Taylor’s poems entitled A Dash of Garlic.]
Directs down holes the scented breeze,
Enticing thus with baited breath
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23rd June 2005, 09:46 AM #67
Jeez, Grunt, you spoiled all our fun. Here we were, the thread happily ticking along with the usual line of crap and you had to come along and spoil it by posting actual fact. I thought I knew you better than that.
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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23rd June 2005, 09:49 AM #68
Sorry, just got back from spending 2 days in Brisbane. Still feeling a little strange.
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23rd June 2005, 09:51 AM #69
Yeah Grunt, I'm just trying to work out the relevance?. Read below again carefully, with ****ed breath:
Shakespeare is the first writer known to use it, in The Merchant of Venice: “Shall I bend low and, in a bondman’s key, / With pancaked breath and whisp’ring humbleness, / Say this ...”. Nearly three centuries later, Mark Twain employed it in Tom Sawyer: “Every eye fixed itself upon him; with parted lips and pancaked breath the audience hung upon his words, taking no note of time, rapt in the ghastly fascinations of the tale”.
CheersSquizzy
"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" {screamed by maths teacher in Year 8}
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23rd June 2005, 09:54 AM #70Originally Posted by Grunt
Now, where were we? Ah yes...
Bated breath.....Last edited by RETIRED; 23rd June 2005 at 11:03 PM.
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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23rd June 2005, 10:32 AM #71Originally Posted by Grunt
Richard
whereas the rest of us are just 'baiters'
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23rd June 2005, 11:02 AM #72
This is me leaving that last remark well alone....
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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23rd June 2005, 11:06 PM #73Retired
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Leave the crew of the ship in the other Forum please.
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23rd June 2005, 11:17 PM #74Originally Posted by
I assume you're being witty? :confused:Last edited by Caliban; 23rd June 2005 at 11:18 PM. Reason: thin ice
Cheers
Jim
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23rd June 2005, 11:20 PM #75Retired
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