Spray equipment ?

[MajorPanic]

There are little differences not too much IMHO, but get those little differences wrong and it'll kill the finish.(automotive and wood)
Its all paint.

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[AshleyM]

Violincrafter
If you want you could send it to me as a pm. I think this will get around the problem??

If not I can pm you with my email address and you could send it there.

Regards

Ash

[violincrafter]

Hi Woodies,
Sorry on my behalf, I did go a little off stray by talking of an auto paint situation problem. My inference was simply to show that the equipment used sometimes means very little if the preparation or technique is not performed well. many problems associated with timber finishes are also applicable to auto faults, eg RUNS SAG Blooming, Humidity blistering, solvent pop, crazing, cracking,,,,,sounds familiar? yes they happen with both mediums but AUTO Finishing makes or breaks any spray painter and if you can master this,,,,then timber is simpler but a different approach as any one can understand. Try finishing a car to a mirror reflective showroom shine!!! For me timber is well below the knowledge of auto finishing and you probably WILL dispute this but thats because that person doesnt know the difficulty and expertise of an auto REFINISHER!

I understand the difference between auto finishing and timber finishing. But as we are well aware any small minute fault in auto paint can show up 1000 times as much as timber finish. A spray painter has to be very good when finishing a car as it is a fairly high investment and timber finish is a little more forgiving.

My inference is to reinforce that whats the use of having state of the art equipment if the preliminary preparation is lacking. There is a little bit more involved with preparing and finishing a car for showroom condition than is a furniture piece. Still timber is very nice but is easier to apply paint and years ago brushing was very well accepted. A car would look appauling if brushed using high gloss finishes.

[Shane Watson]

so what your saying is an auto refinisher is better than a furniture refinisher? Couldn't disagree more, and I've sprayed both (auto & furniture) including off the gun

mirror reflective showroom shine!!!

Several state and national awards for best kitchen & bathroom finish is kinda testiment, all off the gun full gloss piano finish.

And whats the difference between

wood finishing

&

timber finishing

? last time I looked wood was timber, but lumber well thats different

[violincrafter]

Cars are more challenging in my opinion!

[Harry72]

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The basic differences between the actual spraying of wood and cars with the same type of paint... metal doesnt soak up paint and wood can bleed/taint into the finish, the shape of a car is harder to keep the gun parallel to the surface(unless its unusualy shaped furinture), wooden items tend to have more sharp internal corners... list goes on and on and on!
Gun settings differnces, not any IMHO
The main differences are in the prep job before spraying, I've found acrylic paints for wood tend to fill better than car acrylic so the prep sanding needs to be way better on a car... theres no grain on a car to hide, not saying you cant do fine prep job on wood tho!
(this is why they invented automotive 2pac's as they fill better, less sanding to prep and finish/polish)
I prefer to spray enamel or poly, much less arm work sanding... but easier to get wrong in the gun techinque.

The worst difference is in the hip pocket, get car paint badly wrong and its a monumental job to fix labour wise not to mention the price of most car paints.(PPG or HOC is hellishly expensive stuff to mess up... $1k+ per ltr)

[echnidna]

And whats the difference between
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wood finishing
&
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timber finishing

Wood is round on the outside and covered with bark.
Timber is the inside of the wood with (generally) square corners
UNLESS
The timber has been made round again in a lathe when it is still timber.

Lumber is when you bean some twit with a lump of timber. (Wood will do in an emergency)

[violincrafter]

Sorry WOODIES! I shouldnt of brought the auto painting issue into the forum. This is for wood lovers! I apologize if I offended anyone especially Mr Shane Watson!

He loves his wood as we all do! Right ON Boss!

Oh and before we misunderstand Mr Watsons statement on wood and timbre that was my fault! I wasnt sure what he meant but after reading my post I MADE A TYPO ERROR! Since his post I edited it because I was typing so fast I made an error in the initial post! SORRY!

Damn never make a good word processor lol !! :mad:

Lets forget about cars and lets get back to our love of timbre!

It's very nice stuff that timbre!

I like mirror shine kitchens too and my WIFE wow she would really love a kitchen like that!

Sorry Woodies! I really have to get some sheoak timbre its got good grain! Incidently I saw a book today and gee it looks like European Plane tree that has a similar grain. Thats nice aint it!!!

Have fun!!!! Woodies and borers lol..
I know I am!

[Shane Watson]

Don't apologise for having an opinion! Hell I have often referred to auto refinishing over the years in these forums. I think the two have a close affiliation and each trade can learn off each other! Its certainly helped me

Oh, and you never offended me, I just have a different view and experiences :eek:

I knew your statment about wood and timber was a mistake, hence my reply was tounge in check

Cheers,

oh & for the record, it was not me that closed this thread. :eek:

[ubeaut]

Any furniture finisher worth his salts could finish a car better than most auto finisher, most auto finishers couldn't get a decent finish on a piece of furniture if their life depended on it. There are exceptions to the rule, but not many.

I didn't close it either. Musta bin the woodturner, who I would back against any auto spray painter any day in a finishing competition.