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18th July 2012, 09:05 PM #1New Member
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White material randomly after first coat varnish
I've just finished a releif carving on a piece of Fijian Mahogany. Thought I'd cleaned it up real good -- stiff brush every nook & cranny -- yet after my first coat of Feast Watson matt varnish, all this white stuff -- sorta waxy -- showed up ; mostly along areas where sharp v-tool cuts set in a feature against a lowered ground, end grain exposure, etc.; but not consistently in any face of the wood -- with, against or across the grain.
Any hints on what this is and whether it will go away with second coat?
The timber is quite well cured -- almost too dry -- so I cant really see it as the wood "exuding" something.
As a carver, I don't use sandpaper unless I absolutely have to; so I am at a loss as to where this stuff is coming from.
Any hints?
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18th July 2012, 10:16 PM #2
Does it look like something on the surface, or maybe within the surface? Can you post a photo?
Good things come to those who wait, and sail right past those who don't reach out and grab them.
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18th July 2012, 11:59 PM #3
A pic might help. Could the chisels have burnished the wood so the finish won't go in in patches? Its also been pretty cold . Maybe it was a bit cold for the varnish to cure properly? We have had to be really careful with our lacquor and wait till the temp went over 10 deg at least.
anne-maria.
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19th July 2012, 03:56 PM #4New Member
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Thanks Surf, for replying. I've taken a few pics that show the effect quite plainly == but will have to set up some sort of photo bucket to link to as our hosts quite rightly don't want their disk eaten up. Give me a few..
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Slashusr
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19th July 2012, 04:00 PM #5New Member
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You are quite right on both counts, thank you Tea Lady. There are telling indicators that burnished areas (end grain mostly, but also those flat areas where tight fibres suddenly give way to loose); but I am sort of leaning toward the temperature the Melbourne weather as the culprit.
As above, will get some picture linking arrangement in place asap.
Thanks,
Slashusr
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19th July 2012, 04:06 PM #6New Member
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Well, that didn't take long...
Here are two picturesm Surfdabbler and Tea Lady, that clearly demonstrate the phenomenon of which I write (this is my first project, so I'm just gettinh my legs, so to speak):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...0/IMG_0554.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...0/IMG_0556.jpg
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19th July 2012, 04:06 PM #7
You can add photos directly into a post. Scroll down from the message posting window, below the "Submit Reply" button, and you'll find a button called "Manage Attachments". Click on that, and you can add images directly into your post. All part of the woodworkforums service.
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19th July 2012, 04:09 PM #8
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19th July 2012, 04:17 PM #9New Member
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Thanks, Surfdabbler. I put them on picasa ("for the web") and you can barely see them.
Here they are in better res...
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19th July 2012, 04:19 PM #10New Member
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That's the stuff, all right. Kinda waxy to the touch
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19th July 2012, 04:32 PM #11
Much better pics.
Unfortunately I still don't know what it is. I haven't seen this before. I've used Feast Watson heaps before, although never the Matt, only Satin.
Mahogany isn't normally a problematic wood as far as wood oils or natural waxiness, so I wouldn't expect any issues there.
When you put the varnish on, did the wood warm up afterwards? This can cause air inside the wood to warm up and come out, making tiny bubbles into the finish.
When applying the varnish, it would tend to pool a little more in the corner of the valleys, so the varnish there could have taken longer to dry, and been susceptible to more issues.
Another thought - was your brush totally clean before hand? Pushing into the corners may have dissolved something off your brush and into the corners of the workpiece.Good things come to those who wait, and sail right past those who don't reach out and grab them.
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19th July 2012, 04:33 PM #12New Member
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You know, I think maybe I was a a bit too liberal with the varnish, maybe? There are some closed areas in the piece and I was careful to push a clean soft rag into those spaces to soak up the excess and now I look more carefully, those areas show none of the white stuff.
That and the biting cold last night might add up to the answer.
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19th July 2012, 04:38 PM #13New Member
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A clean brush, Surf. Your comments are right on. Lesson learned.
Thanks
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19th July 2012, 05:06 PM #14
Maybe wipe down with a "tack cloth" before varnishing. Just a cloth soaked in turps or metho. Will get all the dust off and oils and things.
Are those bits glued on? Maybe the glue is reacting with the varnish? Or picking up dust?anne-maria.
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