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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorPanic
    OK, now tell us the name you have give the browser you have developed?....... you know, the one that works how you want it to & NOT how you were conditioned to use since you started on the web. (the one that was developed by a pimply faced kid)

    Oh, don't forget you WILL NOT BE PAID a cent for all the hours of work you have put in developing your browser as IT MUST BE FREE to compete with all the others out there.

    /rant off >
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    Mate,
    I use SlimBrowser which is a wrapper for IE.

    You seem to think that I'm having a go at FF.
    This is not the case.
    As I stated, there are a lot of features I like about it.

    My rant was about what I didn't like about it.

    I'm allowed to say that aren't I, or did free speach go down the pan when I wasn't looking?

    Oh, and by the way I don't expect anything for free.

    At least the pimply faced kid that helped develop IEwas paid by Microsoft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigb
    At least the pimply faced kid that helped develop IEwas paid by Microsoft.
    Hey Craig,

    Well, no, the original source code for IE was made by the company that originally held the name "Internet Explorer" & a browser which Microsoft wrenched from their grasp in a predatory manner.

    Free speech is still alive & well here & you are entitled to your opinions, the same as anyone else.

    I didn't see the need for such a rant over such a seemingly small gripe & then painting developers as pimply faced.

    I started the thread to give a small tip, which I found helpful, to other Firefox users. I just find it strange to see someone ranting about a browser you no longer use in a thread to help others.
    Then again it's only my opinion.
    Cheers

    Major Panic

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorPanic
    [b]Hey Craig,

    Well, no, the original source code for IE was made by the company that originally held the name "Internet Explorer" & a browser which Microsoft wrenched from their grasp in a predatory manner.
    So you say, and knowing the way Microsoft operate I can well believe that it was predatory. However, no doubt at least some money changed hands.

    The "pimply faced" dig was a throw away line.

    It happens all the time on this board. As you well know as you've been a member here for quite some time.

    You'll also be aware that it is rare for a thread NOT to get hijacked at some time in its life.

    And for the record, I'm all for you helping other FF users.

    I'm sure they've all benifited from your tip.

    Please, just don't go around flaming me beacuse I express an opinion.

    The same as everybody does in every thread everyday.

    As you yourself have no doubt done.

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    Hey Craig,

    I'm sorry you took it that way.
    Cheers

    Major Panic

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    Guys
    I usually use FF but this time I'm using IE because Bigpond have a usage meter which I wanted and it will only work with IE (according to their tech guy). I wonder if this is collective bargaining or restrictive trade practices by telstra and microsoft. Anyone have any hints or way around this? Is there another usage meter I could use?Do I have any choice
    Cheers
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    Another reason (and maybe the real one) why I deleted it is that my online TAB account doesn't work with FF :eek:
    If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.

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    Call me mad but I use Netscape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hovo
    Guys
    I usually use FF but this time I'm using IE because Bigpond have a usage meter which I wanted and it will only work with IE (according to their tech guy). I wonder if this is collective bargaining or restrictive trade practices by telstra and microsoft. Anyone have any hints or way around this? Is there another usage meter I could use?Do I have any choice
    Hi ya Hovo,

    I'm on Bigpond Cable & use the usage meter fine with FF :confused:
    Cheers

    Major Panic

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrian
    Call me mad but I use Netscape.
    You're mad.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC
    You're mad.
    Well............I did ask, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrian
    Call me mad but I use Netscape.
    Firefox was written by the people who orignally wrote netscape.......

    The next version of Firefox (yet to be released) will include auto-update, so there will be no issue with making sure you have the latest version with the latest security mods in place.
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    You've inspired me to have another serious look at Firefox. My main reason for not using it, is I use the Google Toolbar continuously. Then I found this:

    http://googlebar.mozdev.org/

    Happy camper now!!!!!! Tested it out on my blog, and that was the final push!

    http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~stuart....g/blogger.html

    This also links from the triton club website (from the Odds & Ends section at the bottom of the menu). Shameless plug for our site.
    "Clear, Ease Springs"
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    I use firefox and thankyou for the tip, but I have no idea how to put that stuff into the file... My pages load quick enough for me anyways.

    Some websites don't load the same or even work with firefox and that isn't firefox's fault, but the webmaster of that sites fault. I have IE still on my PC for when that occurs.

    So I would use IE 1% of the time and FF 99% of the time

    I use internet banking and never have problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby
    Another reason (and maybe the real one) why I deleted it is that my online TAB account doesn't work with FF :eek:
    I find FF has problems with most Active Server Pages. Consequently I have to keep IE handy for banking and my web-based link to work's email list, which is also based on ASPs. Its a Microsoft proprietary thing :mad:
    This time, we didn't forget the gravy.

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    Strictly speaking, no browser ever sees ASP. ASP generates HTML and potentially Javascript, which is sent to the browser. All of my sites are ASP based and some work with Firefox, some do not. The reason why some sites do not work is a long story but basically there never were any real rigorous standards for a long time. In recent years, a firm standard has been put forward and Netscape/Mozilla have taken it up. They claim they are more standards compliant than anyone else, which they probably are. What this means in reality is that a lot of the stuff written before these standards were introduced does not work properly in a standards-compliant browser. It's a bit harsh to blame the developers for this because they were playing to a different tune before the W3C released the standard.

    I could go into 'quirks' mode and so on but I wont bore you. Suffice to say that it will be a little while yet before all the 'legacy' sites are replaced by standards-compliant versions (some may never be) because of the cost involved. In the meantime, there are very few sites that wont work properly under Internet Explorer and considerably more that wont work under Mozilla. It's all very well to say that Mozilla is better, but then so was Betamax.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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