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    heres the answer :

    make everything legal, including guns. do what you want so long as you dont affect anyone else. if you do they have the right to shoot you. sure there'd be a lot of dead people but as in the case of the melb crime syndicates and the rest of 'em so long as they are only after each other then thats fine by me, just makes it easier for the coppers and increases the revenue of the funeral homes....

    theres no easy answer, govts always play catchup, crims always are one step ahead... until they get caught. innocents always suffer - is that a reason not to chase down the guilty ? I think not - look at WW2; how many innocents suffered ?

    I for one would volunteer to be the hangman of mr bryant or his ilk, it would bother me a bit if I was the one that offed someone that was eventually found innocent, but less so than the thought that mr bryant could walk one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed
    heres the answer :

    make everything legal, including guns. do what you want so long as you dont affect anyone else. if you do they have the right to shoot you. sure there'd be a lot of dead people
    Isn't that the system in the land of the free???

    That's why it's also called the home of the brave.

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    Who are you trying to kid? Tell that to the victims of the burglary's and armed robberies and thefts that are perpetrated in the pursuit of cash to fund the habit. The Bali 9 and every other smuggler are a threat to every person in this country, not just for those who get themselves addicted. To me they are all the scum of the Earth and I'm not at all bothered that they might cop the death penalty.

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    I'd like to point out that I was referring to the act of using drugs, when I said that the Bali 9 posed no threat to me, not the corollary crimes of drug addiction, which I maintain are largely due to prohibition. Point well taken, however.

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    Even if drugs were not prohibited, they wouldn't be free. The related crime may lessen but unless it is free it wont stop.

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    In line with this argument, it would be interesting how they fared in the Netherlands.
    Was drug related crime higher before or after they legalised the vast majority of drugs and had the supply regulated by the govt.

    Im simply curious....or is that curiously simple

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    Do i think these nine should be put to death
    Yes
    it's that simple
    they knew what would happen if they got caught
    show what happened to them then move on
    no need to show these 9 on the news all the time

    what do they want Me to feel sorry for them
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    The judicial system in any country has flaws. Some more than others. If any of the nine are innocent but are found guilty and put to death then it will be a travesty of justice that cannot be rectified.

    If Scheppelle Corby is found guilty the judges could sentence her to death. This outcome is a real possibility. I am led, by the media, to believe that she is innocent. This is the problem with capitol punishment. Once it is applied, it is impossible to says "oops, sorry about that Chief".

    Lock the 9 up by all means. Don't let them out. Just don't kill them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanP
    Even if drugs were not prohibited, they wouldn't be free. The related crime may lessen but unless it is free it wont stop.

    Dan
    But were it not prohibited then a gram dropped in price from $600 (or how ever much it is), to $10, there would probably be an awful lot of OD's.
    Dead junkies mean no drug related crime.
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    Dead junkies mean no drug related crime
    They also mean alot of wasted public resources, let alone greiving families.
    Junkies usually still have people that love them. Legalisation alone is not the answer. If I knew what the answer was, I'd share it.

    BTW, a few years ago heroin did come down in price to about $15.00 a hit. And you're right, GM, there was a spate of overdoses.

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    Got a vague idea the Pom's trialled legal heroin for registered addicts back in the 50's or 60's. Maybe jow or BJ or another pom might recall something
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    Bring back the Taliban I say. While they were in power there was almost no heroin to be had. Should have seen the queues at the chemists for methadone It's amazing how much they want to get off it when they can't get it.
    Is there anything easier done than said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanP
    Bring back the Taliban I say.
    If they had the power now there wouldn't be any debate.
    They would have used 9 bullets and immediately eliminated the trial and due legal process.
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    A very efficient system then!
    Is there anything easier done than said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanP
    Bring back the Taliban I say. While they were in power there was almost no heroin to be had.
    If you say so
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanP
    Bring back the Taliban I say. While they were in power there was almost no heroin to be had. Should have seen the queues at the chemists for methadone It's amazing how much they want to get off it when they can't get it.
    Might interest you to know that most of the funding for the Taliban's activities came from supplying the western world with opium from their poppy fields....
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