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    Mineral Turps is what most of us would be using in Aus. I think. It is what I use.

    Apparently not exactly a foodstuff but still not too nasty:

    http://www.enerquip.com.au/brochures...TURPENTINE.pdf

    Pertinent part of that, perhaps:

    11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
    Basis for Assessment : Information given is based on data on the components and the toxicology of similar products.
    Acute Oral Toxicity : Expected to be of low toxicity: LD50 >2000 mg/kg , Rat
    Aspiration into the lungs when swallowed or vomited may
    cause chemical pneumonitis which can be fatal.
    Acute Dermal Toxicity : Expected to be of low toxicity: LD50 >2000 mg/kg , Rat
    Acute Inhalation Toxicity : Expected to be of low toxicity: LC50 greater than nearsaturated vapour concentration. /


    and this bit is quite heartening:

    Persistence/degradability : Readily biodegradable.
    Oxidises rapidly by photo-chemical reactions in air.

    but this bit is no quite so:

    Bioaccumulation : Has the potential to bioaccumulate.


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    Oddjob 1, since you asked the question.....

    The rubber that wears off our tyres everyday is lodged in the road surface until it is washed away by rain. The fastest wear happens during braking and cornering, so a lot of rubber is deposited at intersections, along with the odd drop of oil etc. This is why intersections are noticeably slippery in the first rain after a dry spell.

    Some of these rubber particles are probably washed into drains and soil along the roadside. There is a lot more rubber left in the worn-out carcass than is worn off on the road. Tyres are made from a combination of natural and synthetic rubbers, oil, carbon black, steel, synthetic fibre and chemicals, and much of this is recyclable, if the latest technology is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abrogard View Post
    Mineral Turps is what most of us would be using in Aus. I think. It is what I use.

    Apparently not exactly a foodstuff but still not too nasty:

    I'm up with that. I was sort of responding to a pet peeve of mine "It must be better/healthy/good for you it's natural" which is often not the case.

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    I like the bucket of sawdust under the bench idea. If its readily biodegradable then throwing it into landfill really isnt that bad.
    Live life to the fullest, you have to go big and do everything with your all or why do it at all?

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    G'day all,

    funny how a post that spans as long as this one can have new life, one wishes that some of the older musso's out there that go on tour could in fact produce new material instead of going over the old stuff they knocked out when we where kids again and again hey! Remember every other week we would be waiting for their new album?
    I like to work with turps and Diesel especially on those cold winter mornings as they are warm to the hands, not like that nasty freezing petrol! And LPG is even colderThank goodness they got rid of the Lead out of the petrol cause that will go to your brain you know, not like the rubber that goes down the drain Hmmm? Oh the bucket of flammable sawdust under the bench is quite a good idea for fire lighters and that but I wouldn't be using an anglegrinder in the same room as it!

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    And natural things like asbestos, oil, alcohol and latex are all natural too..
    I am learning, slowley.

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    I just throw used oils ,diesel ,Fuel ,kero ,turps etc etc into 44 gal drums. I soak fence posts in it ,and poor it around concrete slabs and around farm out buildings for termite protection ,also use it to paint outdoor timber for waterproofing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagie View Post
    And natural things like asbestos, oil, alcohol and latex are all natural too..
    And don't forget the stuff that a taipan, king brown and tiger snakes leave behind when they bite, that stuff is natural also....
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    [QUOTE=Oddjob1;1391884]Hi all,

    turps is natural resin derived from trees through the distillation of mainly pine wood so thinking it is a bad thing is not correct, probably every thing they add to it to make paint may be bad but then I don't know.





    No.

    Turpentine was once derived from tree resins, but the stuff we now buy - mineral turpentine, is an organic solvent derived from the distillation of crude oil. It is kind of a lightweight diesel.

    I very much doubt that you could find tree resin turpentine anywhere.

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    This may sound a totally odd question, but does turps now, or at any time in history had anything at all to do with sugar?
    My reason for asking is many many moons ago, none of the hardware stores had any turps. One salesman told us it was because of the sugar strike.
    Neither the older gentleman I was with or myself had any idea what connection there was between the two, but we sort of acted like we understood so as not to appear foolish.
    But to this day, I've thought turps must be made from sugar or sugar was used in some way in its manufacture. Maybe this is a chance to clear this little mystery up.
    Any takers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avery View Post
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    I very much doubt that you could find tree resin turpentine anywhere.
    Gum Turpentine is pretty easy to buy Bunnings and some larger hardware stores have it. You can also source it from a good artists suppliers

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    Grandad - have you considered the works and workers involved? It could perhaps be that with the sugar mills shut down the turpentine mill workers struck in sympathy - was there a turpentine mill in that locality?

    A bit of googling showed me that the two often coexisted, at least in the past.

    And railways. Could perhaps the two mills have used the same railway - perhaps belonging to the Sugar Mill and closed down by their strikers and therefore not available to the turpentine mill?

    just a thought....


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    All of those are quite possible. The sugar strike was widespread. Australia wide. Well, at least the shortage was felt Australia wide. From memory....we're going back to the late 70's here I think.....the sugar strike was to do with the canefield workers in Qld.
    You know, I hadn't thought of this until reading this thread. When people started talking about how turps is made, my brain....or what's left of it...sent up a red flag. "Hang on...isn't it made from sugar?
    Obviously not.

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