Tyres

[Cliff Rogers]

Road conditions & driving style play a big part...

Tell the man at the tyre place HOW & WHERE you drive & ask him for a price & then go & ask another tyre place, if the tell you different things, ask a few more tyre places until you work out who you trust.

People can't be experts at everything but most of them can work out when they are being BS'd.

Becoming a tyre expert overnight is not going to happen, becoming an ANYthing expert overnight is not going to happen.

If you do you homework on the people selling the tyre & find one you trust, go with what he/she says BUT you have to tell them the truth about how & where you drive.

We get about about 40, to 45,000 Kms out out of a set of 4 'cos we do a lot of windy roads that are very often wet & we drive like there is no tomorrow & we are always late.

Some tyres stick to the road better than others, the man at the shop will tell you if you ask him. The first set of tyres we had on our Rodeo only lasted about 41,000 Kms & they were HOPELESS at sticking, it was like rollerskates on marbles on frozen glass. :eek: . We told the man at the tyre shop & he put us onto a set of Goodridgch (?) 693s & they stuck to the road like glue, cornered great & we got 45,000Kms out of them. The Rodeo needed new tyres but it only has 6 months to go on the current lease & we reckon we'll ditch it & move one. We will do hardly any true 'dirt' work in that time & it will mostly run up & down the range in the wet so he put me onto a much cheaper but softer set of tyres that 'look' real flash. I got them last week & took it up & down the range, it's MUCH quieter to ride in, sticks to the road like glue BUT, I reckon they under-steer HEAPS. I'll get used to them but even though they are quieter, they don't perform like the 693s did, the price shows up int the performance.

Now, back to the hijack, my wife's car is a Corolla P/van, was a station wagon & we modified it for '3 letter word' reasons.
I could not imagine how on earth you would even manage to get the 440BHP onto the ground.... :eek:
The damned thing is that light that it will accelerate form 60 to 140 in the length of one of our silly hillside overtaking lanes. (The Rodeo would only manage 60 to 100 in the same distance.)
If it have 440BHP, I would imagine it could still go from 60 to 140 in the same distance, & leave 3 black marks as well. (front brakes on & I don't think you can get a limo for a Corolla )

Struth, 440BHP in a Corolla P/van, Farrr-k!

25 years ago I had an EH station wagon with a 186 X2 with twin strombergs (from a HR) in it & that had about 83BHP

[Harry72]

One tyre I can vouch for... dont ever buy a Nangkang they are crap, thats what the place that I brought the wheels from put on my old ute. It would slide out under power so easy, you could smoke'm in 1st 2nd 3rd without touching the brakes and the ute only had 225hp at the rear wheels!(dyno tested)

Hey Bob, wana do 250kmh carrying a cube of wood... buy a Typhoon or SuperPursuit falcon ute!

[DanP]

Got 10,000 K's (just) out of the tyres on the 'SS' at work.

[Fat Pat]

Rubbish!! :mad:
For a start the goverment wouldnt allow such crap tyres to be fitted to the average Aussie family cars.
If they did, then the tyre manufactures would be up for huge costs in the courts.
What a load of bollacks.

Al :mad:

Ozzie, sorry, but you're wrong. The Govt. allows retreads (for cars - truck tyres are a different story), and they are woefully inadequate (but cheap). Maybe adequate at 80 kph, but they regularly fall apart at 100+. And in WA we are ALLOWED to go 100+. Tyre manufactures are covered because the Govt. allows it!

If you're going to harangue, perhaps you can spell better?

DanP - Your tyres may last 100,000 KM, but you can bet they are as hard as nails, and when push come to shove (i.e. a hard braking moment/accident) if all else is the same, YOUR tyres will be the ones to lock up and attempt to occupy the same time/space co-ordinates as mine. Tyres are as important for a car as a bike. The idea that cheaper is better is crazy - pure and simple! How much do you value you pelvis/thighbone/sternum? Accidents can break them, and then where will you be? I'm not advocating spending $2000 a hoop, and believe me, you can...and more, but decent tyres are far more important than an upgrade on a TV or a better lawn-mower.

Glib comments about tyres lasting 100,000 KM are unhelpful in the extreme, because they are most definitely inadequate for the job.

[numbat]

Glib comments about tyres lasting 100,000 KM are unhelpful in the extreme, because they are most definitely inadequate for the job.

I think you will find he said 10 not 100 thousand km. On his govt supplied patrol car .

Cheers

[E. maculata]

Now, back to the hijack, my wife's car is a Corolla P/van, was a station wagon & we modified it for '3 letter word' reasons.
I could not imagine how on earth you would even manage to get the 440BHP onto the ground.... :eek:
The damned thing is that light that it will accelerate form 60 to 140 in the length of one of our silly hillside overtaking lanes. (The Rodeo would only manage 60 to 100 in the same distance.)
If it have 440BHP, I would imagine it could still go from 60 to 140 in the same distance, & leave 3 black marks as well. (front brakes on & I don't think you can get a limo for a Corolla )

Struth, 440BHP in a Corolla P/van, Farrr-k!

Here’s the easy way to a 11.2 sec Qcar.
Take 1 1979 corolla (doesn’t matter which body)
Gut completely, every thing and I mean the lot, if its got bolts its comes off, ifs its just got a few spotwelds the get drilled and it comes off, Pay RTA approved engineer to visit car and tell him whats you’re doing get tacit approval ie: registered hill climber with some 440 yard (1/4 mile) work for fun .
Now we can start
mount on 2 engine stands (1 at back 1 at front through bumper mounts) so it’s a flipover. Get wife and Father in law to do body work, bare metal, of course burn/sandblast all factory deadner out. Cut most of firewall and trans tunnel out, weld in 1975-1976 cortina section, Built chassis out of 3x2 RHS to front engine mount back to rear spring hangers, bolt on, take off redo, bolt on swear repeat ably cos you forgot mounts take off do again. 8 months later finally done chassis with new radiator panel sloping back at 12.5° for Massive Showa alumunium radiator & Nissan truck intercooler.
I’ll skip a bit here boring fiddly stuff about engine gearbox position, suffice to say the close ratio supra box lever was between front seats and the weight distribution was 55% front/45 rear and ther was still lotsa room at the front of bay despite turbo & plumbing.
Front brakes 13.25” discs with volvo sliding callipers, mounted to the bottom of RA-28 struts with Koni inserts with Cut down LJ springs above strut tower braces in plain steel with ball ends for adjustment, rear springs from Cressida (softish) reset with coilovers on celica diff housing, with TRD clutched center at around 4.22:1.

Rebuild last of the 12A motors to a blueprint, slightly enlarge ports, mount modified t-3 air research turbo through 3” system 1 large muffler as turbos are sound bafflers themselves, injectors with large butterfly air injector system Wolf 3D controller (hated that thing)light steel flywheel to a modified Hybrid Chev pressure plate with ceramic “button Clutch, hydraulic system donated by holden, thru to modified supra box 100mm tailshaft

Heaps and Heaps more fiddly stuff than that,like the first time I drove it it was an uncontrollable “dog” so we had to redo drive train mounts cause the harmonics started at 220 and scared me silly.

When we finished it it had a roll centre 150mm off the ground, weighed 1100 kg fully tanked, half caged, wife used to drive it to supermarket so it was sorta civilised, and the reigning QLD sportscar champ at the time (a Tech advisor and turbo fixerupperer) reckoned it was the best handling street car he’d ever driven, made me look real good as a driver.

Had kids, needed bigger house so sold it to a mate who always wanted it since I blew his V8 UC and his ZXR away on the hills, he bodgied some stuff up, that wasn’t on engineers report got yellow stickered on his way to competing at the summernats. Got the Sh!ts and sold it in parts to the rally guy/hill climb guys as far as I know

[jow104]

How much tread is on a tyre when new in OZ?

Nobody gets mileage in the UK like what you're talking about. I know the US also get high mileage out of their rubbers.

[aussiecolector]

3mm. Thats only half worn out. 1.5mm is legal. I personaly like to see a bit of steel showing. Wouldnt touch retreads on radials, ok for rags though.

[DanP]

Pat,

As I have previously stated. I have done 100,000+ Kms (yes, one hundred thousand plus) on those tyres and never have I been in a situation caused by the 'inadequate' tyres. I have done some hard driving in that time, in that car and on those tyres, including when I had them on the front as well. I stand by my previous comments and backed them up with the statement that I have a bit of experience in hard driving.

All you have done is refute these statements and have yet to state your position in regard to where you get your knowledge. If you have experience in this area, say what it is. Don't just hang shyte on what other people say.

Dan

[Daddles]

Arrr, I don't know what youse blokes are talkin' about. The rims haven't touched the ground on my MG in ages so the tyres aren't worn out yet

Richard
One glass of wine, I take things seriously
two glasses of wine, there's no way I'll take things seriously
three glasses of wine and I can't even spell whateverthatwordwasthatIwasthinkingaboutbutcan'tspellcozImpissed

[ozwinner]

If you're going to harangue, perhaps you can spell better?

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If you going to pick on my spelling, maybe you can go fryyourself..
Seriously.....

Al

[echnidna]

I go along with Al, this is a woodies forum not a spelling forum so picking on sum one for there spelling is not productive

[bitingmidge]

If you're going to harangue, perhaps you can spell better?

B. E. T. T. E. R.

Is there some sort of prize for the first correct entry??

P(Pancakes be blowed, this is lemon-harangue pie!)

[echnidna]

B. E. T. T. E. R.

Is there some sort of prize for the first correct entry??

P(Pancakes be blowed, this is lemon-harangue pie!)

yer got it wrong midge you spelt BETTER , read the question again;

the correct answer is b.e.t.t.e.r.

[beejay1]

If you going to pick on my spelling, maybe you can go ****yourself..
Seriously.....

Al

Ahhh dear Al, your eloquence,tact and rapier like retort as always only surpassed by your devilish good looks.

Am I allowed to give you a greenie for that one you big cuddly hi-jacker
beejay1

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